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Last post Fri, Aug 05 2011 by Dietz, 33 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Jul 23 2010 14:44
by rolanda-90
Joined on Mon, Apr 21 2008, Posts 1

Will the Vienna MIR be available for Mac users ?

If so...... when ?

   Thanks.

Tags: Vienna MIR
Posted on Fri, Jul 23 2010 21:06
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7397

Welcome Rolanda-90,

thanks for your interest in Vienna MIR.

MIR as we know it now won't ever be available for Mac. But don't despair: Based on the same concept, we are working on a new application called Vienna MIR Pro right now, which will bring OS X-compatibility  (amongst many other new features). We can't announce its release date officially yet, but we have high hopes to have MIR Pro ready during winter 2010/2011.

In the meantime, you could use MIR on a Mac like quite a few fellow users do it: You could run Windows 7 on any up-to-date Intel-Mac using BootCamp. Or you could use MIR like it was actually meant to be used: As a stand-alone application on a dedicated PC, receiving MIDI from your Mac. :-)

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Jul 24 2010 02:04
by Jack Weaver
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Tucson, AZ, Posts 391

Well, that's exciting!

.

Mac Master:
2010 Mac Pro 12-core. 3.46GHz, 64 GB RAM, OSX 10.12.3, Logic Pro X 10.3.1 ,VEP5, SSD system drive, etc.

PC Slave:
12-core e5650, 48 GB RAM, Win7, MIR Pro/VEP5, SSD system drive
Posted on Wed, Aug 25 2010 13:20
by Sami Boman
Joined on Wed, Mar 23 2005, Jyväskylä, Finland, Posts 198

Hello!

Any updated news on this subject? Eagerly waiting here for any drops of information.

In some thread you mentioned that Vienna team is waiting for Apple's new generation of processors. Now Apple announced the new Mac Pros. Are these the new machines you were waiting for or is this alltogether old information?

And finally, will there be a SE version of MIR for Mac too?

Posted on Wed, Aug 25 2010 13:42
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

The first MIR for Mac is likely to be MIR Pro, which is due some time at the end of this year, or the start of 2011. However, there has been no word on whether the initial release will be for OSX as well as Windows. There are no plans to port the current version of MIR or MIR SE to OSX.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, Aug 25 2010 15:32
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7397
DG wrote:
[...] There are no plans to port the current version of MIR or MIR SE to OSX.

Confirmed. Actually MIR Pro will be a completely new engine (... it _has_ to be, mostly for OSX compatibilty). It will have very little in common in the with the current version of MIR, apart from the underlying audio and GUI concepts.

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Aug 26 2010 09:10
by Sergino Futurino
Joined on Thu, Dec 18 2003, Italy, Posts 652

 In this developement stage, are there differences in the number of instruments/same hardware PC configuration ratio Windows vs. OSX?

www.sergiobrunetti.it
Windows 10 on Vertex4 SSD - I7 3960x overclocked @4.0 Ghz - 32 GB RAM -
2010 MacbookPro 2.66 Ghz 8 Giga RAM -
MOTU: 2408 MK3, 24i, Traveler,MIDI Express XT
Studio One 4.1 Pro, Notion 6.5, Sibelius 6.2, Kontakt 5.6
VE Pro 6, VI Pro 2, Vienna Suite, Vienna MIR Pro w/Roompacks 1 and 2,
Libraries (preload size 2408): Special Edition Standard and Plus, Appassionata I, Solo Strings I, Dimension Brass, Percussion, Soprano Choir, Upright Bass, Flugelhorn, Saxophones, Concert guitar, Jazz Drums, Epic Orchestra, Dimension Strings
Posted on Thu, Aug 26 2010 12:52
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7397
Sergino Futurino wrote:

 In this developement stage, are there differences in the number of instruments/same hardware PC configuration ratio Windows vs. OSX?

Sorry, but we have no real world experiences in this regard yet.

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Aug 26 2010 13:53
by Sergino Futurino
Joined on Thu, Dec 18 2003, Italy, Posts 652

 So we must understand that it's still a long way to MIRPROrary? Geeked

www.sergiobrunetti.it
Windows 10 on Vertex4 SSD - I7 3960x overclocked @4.0 Ghz - 32 GB RAM -
2010 MacbookPro 2.66 Ghz 8 Giga RAM -
MOTU: 2408 MK3, 24i, Traveler,MIDI Express XT
Studio One 4.1 Pro, Notion 6.5, Sibelius 6.2, Kontakt 5.6
VE Pro 6, VI Pro 2, Vienna Suite, Vienna MIR Pro w/Roompacks 1 and 2,
Libraries (preload size 2408): Special Edition Standard and Plus, Appassionata I, Solo Strings I, Dimension Brass, Percussion, Soprano Choir, Upright Bass, Flugelhorn, Saxophones, Concert guitar, Jazz Drums, Epic Orchestra, Dimension Strings
Posted on Fri, Aug 27 2010 07:56
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7397

Yes, of course. Don't expect a finished product before the end of the year. Thanks for your patience!

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Aug 27 2010 21:35
by christof
Joined on Tue, Jun 19 2007, Vienna/Austria, Posts 195

If you are planning to have Beta testers....I would be very excited to be part of a Beta program;-)

christof

Posted on Wed, Sep 01 2010 19:06
by Tom23
Joined on Mon, Feb 26 2007, Miller, Posts 119

Hi,

  Okay, so it now looks like a newer version of MIR, compatible w/ Mac OSX is coming out in 2011.  I've been holding off buying a new computer until MIR for Mac comes along.  I'm interested in what a previous writer wondered--are the new MacPros w/ their six processors able to handle MIR w/out MIR being on a separate computer?  If so, I'd think about selling my current computers and getting a new Macpro in anticipation.  In general, what's the word on the new MacPro's?  They look impressive (expensive, too).

Thanks.  All best,   Tom

Posted on Wed, Sep 01 2010 20:27
by harry_25654
Joined on Sat, Jan 27 2007, Edinburgh UK, Posts 11

Please make an affordable (SE) type version of it, please! I'm sure there are alot of 1x Macpro Users out there who would love to use the same computer. 

8 core mac pro (2009) 24gb Ram / M Audio 1814
Cubase 6.5 / VSL SE+ / Ensemble pro 5 / Instruments pro 2
Posted on Wed, Sep 01 2010 20:59
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
harry_25654 wrote:

Please make an affordable (SE) type version of it, please! I'm sure there are alot of 1x Macpro Users out there who would love to use the same computer. 

 

They'll have to wait for MIR Pro SE, whenever that comes out.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Thu, Sep 02 2010 07:33
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7397

Tom23 wrote:
Hi,

  Okay, so it now looks like a newer version of MIR, compatible w/ Mac OSX is coming out in 2011.  I've been holding off buying a new computer until MIR for Mac comes along.  I'm interested in what a previous writer wondered--are the new MacPros w/ their six processors able to handle MIR w/out MIR being on a separate computer?  If so, I'd think about selling my current computers and getting a new Macpro in anticipation.  In general, what's the word on the new MacPro's?  They look impressive (expensive, too).

Thanks.  All best,   Tom

Tom,


thanks for your interest in Vienna MIR. I f you don't need the new machine _now_, I would wait for the actual release of  MIR for Mac and see what's available then. AFAIR, computers never got more expensive during the last 30 years or so ... ;-)


Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Sep 05 2010 22:55
by denis
Joined on Sun, Nov 16 2008, Posts 114
harry_25654 wrote:
Please make an affordable (SE) type version of it, please! I'm sure there are alot of 1x Macpro Users out there who would love to use the same computer.

+1

Dietz wrote:
AFAIR, computers never got more expensive during the last 30 years or so ... ;-)

Apart from the Mac Pros that became totally inaccessible lately.
Posted on Mon, Sep 06 2010 03:21
by Jack Weaver
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Tucson, AZ, Posts 391

Hey Dietz,



I'm a big reverb guy and have almost everything VSL has ever made - but
not Mir - and that allows for the fact that I acknowledge that Mir is
both great and incredibly unlike any other reverberator ever conceived.


I love VE Pro and I love Vienna Suite (and the combination of both). Now
after a week you couldn't rip VI Pro from my fingers with the jaws of
life.


But in order for me to switch over to Mir (as much as I would like to be
able to do it today!) you're going to have to adapt the workflow to
allow for these other tools.


I hope that Mir Pro is able to accommodate these things. I want Mir Pro
on the master along with the sequencer and this being fed by a couple of VE Pro slaves using VI Pro. I want to be able to use my other hardware and software reverbs in a hybrid mix outside of Mir within my sequencer. Can't
wait until I get this kind of setup working. Plus I don't want to have
to reload my VSL templates every time I need to reboot my master
machine. Master machines have to be booted so many extra times because
of installation and upgrades.

Another good word for VI Pro - it's really, really extended the life and usefulness of all the VSL sample libraries.


Congratulations you guys are so fantastic.

.

Mac Master:
2010 Mac Pro 12-core. 3.46GHz, 64 GB RAM, OSX 10.12.3, Logic Pro X 10.3.1 ,VEP5, SSD system drive, etc.

PC Slave:
12-core e5650, 48 GB RAM, Win7, MIR Pro/VEP5, SSD system drive
Posted on Mon, Sep 06 2010 08:05
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

 Jack, as MIR Pro will be able to accept audio inputs, all of the above should be possible.

BTW, these reasons are why I don't use MIR either. Wink

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Mon, Sep 06 2010 16:35
by Jack Weaver
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Tucson, AZ, Posts 391

Hi DG,

So what you're saying is the MIR Pro is going to only accept audio inputs from slave machines and not the direct ethernet input from VE Pro on those slaves?

Will we be able to output from MIR Pro back into the sequencer on our Master machines to be able to do hybrid mixes using our current hardware and software reverbs?

Thanks.

.

Mac Master:
2010 Mac Pro 12-core. 3.46GHz, 64 GB RAM, OSX 10.12.3, Logic Pro X 10.3.1 ,VEP5, SSD system drive, etc.

PC Slave:
12-core e5650, 48 GB RAM, Win7, MIR Pro/VEP5, SSD system drive
Posted on Mon, Sep 06 2010 16:57
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

 I can't answer your question directly, but i would imagine that the routing will be:

  1. MIDI from sequnecer to VE Pro
  2. Audio return to sequencer from VE Pro
  3. Route audio return as input into MIR
  4. Route mix out of MIR

That should give you the opportunity to use sends from the VE Pro audio return to any other software or hardware FX unit, including your Bricasti.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
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