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MIR SE - AMAZING!
Last post Sun, Sep 05 2010 by Stephen W. Beatty, 16 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Aug 25 2010 20:08
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5726

I got MIR SE installed on a fairly modest computer - 8 gigs RAM, Vista 64bit, Echo Mia soundcard - and it is fantastic!  The sense of the instrument existing in a real space is astounding, and the interface is completely intuitive and straightforward.  This blows away all other mixing/reverb/mastering software I have ever used.  It is brilliantly designed for musicians, and the sound is beautiful and instantly controllable.  This is a true leap forward in technology as well as music - another huge inspiration from VSL!

Posted on Thu, Aug 26 2010 07:41
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8105

Thanks a lot, William!

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Aug 26 2010 08:12
by mail@olavbasoski.nl
Joined on Mon, Feb 04 2008, Posts 32

Are you chaps working on a Mac version, Dietz?

MacPro dual quad 2.8
10 GB Ram
OS Snow Leopard 10.6.4
4 x 500 GB Sata internal
1x 2TB external (backup)
Logic 9.1.1
iLok + Synchrosoft
RME FF800
VSL SE
EWQLSO
EWQLSC
A zillion Kontakt libs.
**All software always latest updates!**
Posted on Thu, Aug 26 2010 08:41
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
wrote:

Are you chaps working on a Mac version, Dietz?

 

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Thu, Aug 26 2010 08:50
by mail@olavbasoski.nl
Joined on Mon, Feb 04 2008, Posts 32

Ah, thanks!

MacPro dual quad 2.8
10 GB Ram
OS Snow Leopard 10.6.4
4 x 500 GB Sata internal
1x 2TB external (backup)
Logic 9.1.1
iLok + Synchrosoft
RME FF800
VSL SE
EWQLSO
EWQLSC
A zillion Kontakt libs.
**All software always latest updates!**
Posted on Fri, Aug 27 2010 17:48
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 259

Hi William!

8 GB only?

How does it work? what are your other PC Specs (Just asking because they still say 12 GB which is pretty much)

Posted on Fri, Aug 27 2010 17:51
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 259

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Posted on Fri, Aug 27 2010 20:07
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8105

Gabriel - depending on the Venue you load into MIR, its RAM-demands will change. The actual size used by a Venue is determined by several variables, like the reverb time (from 0.5 to 10 seconds), or the number of individual IRs used for it (from several hundreds up to far more than thousand), the output format (stereo or surround), and so on. In addition to that, you will want to load virtual instruments, of course. :-)

This means that you will be able to host a small ensemble with a handful of instruments on a rather dry soundstage without any problems using a 8 GB machine, while you would need far more than that with a full-blown orchestra an a big, reverberant hall. There are MIR-users who equipped their machines with 48 GB RAM (or even 96) for exactly that reason.

The 12 GB we quote in our specifications is a reasonable value to use MIR without running into limits too fast.

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Tags: RAM Vienna MIR
Posted on Sat, Aug 28 2010 22:18
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5726

I am using the large Konzerthaus, though I am doing smaller sections of a larger orchestration separately as the RAM does get used up if you use a lot of articulations.  I set up a template for all instruments I wanted but with their cells empty, allowing the relative positioning of everything, and then put .fxp files into them as I freeze different sections or instruments.  This is a way of using MIR on a very cheap computer (like mine).  It is simply awesome sounding and totally easy to use. I am still in a state of schock as it has blown away all my other mixing/reverb strategies. 

Posted on Sun, Aug 29 2010 16:30
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5726

One other thing I will say about MIR in my excitement and then I'll shut up -   it really seems to complete the VSL.  The sound starts with the original samples which are beautifully recorded, then is combined into a set of highly useable and astoundingly detailed articulations which accomplish the nearly impossible - capturing what orchestral players actually do -  and then is completed within MIR which - though it is doing incredibly complex work "under the hood" is programmed for musicians instead of engineering experts and gives a complete environment, custom made for the VSL sounds.    Anyone using VSL simply has to have MIR unless he is a great mixing engineer (though even then you probably would want it since it is such a great convolution reverb system).  I love being able to load a flute and have it automatically sound near perfect in relation to every other instrument in level, positioning, reverb, EQ, everything, as if I had gone to a concert hall with perfectly placed state of the art mikes and gear and recorded a great musician flawlessly. That is what this system actually does! Truly amazing.  All right I will stop gushing  and get back to work...

Posted on Mon, Aug 30 2010 00:12
by Animus
Joined on Fri, Sep 25 2009, Posts 146

Can you load other vstis such as Kontakt in those slots?  Would be a nice feature if not.   VSl is only a portion of what i use.

Posted on Mon, Aug 30 2010 01:03
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 259

Thanks for the answers!

@William: This was exactly what i wanted to hear ;)

Posted on Mon, Aug 30 2010 03:48
by ozoufonoun_29353
Joined on Sun, Jul 22 2007, Posts 107

William would you be willing to post a short sample excerpt from some of your recent experiences with MIR SE?  Even if not polished, it would be very nice to hear.

Thanks,

O

omidzoufonoun.com
Posted on Mon, Aug 30 2010 07:33
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8105
Animus wrote:

Can you load other vstis such as Kontakt in those slots?  Would be a nice feature if not.   VSl is only a portion of what i use.

Every VSTi that comes as 64-bit compatible DLL (or is wrapped up to it) can be used  within MIR / MIR SE. They won't have the deep integration of Vienna Instruments, of course, and due to MIR's concept the use of multi-outputs isn' t supported.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Aug 31 2010 15:35
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5726
ozoufonoun_29353 wrote:

William would you be willing to post a short sample excerpt from some of your recent experiences with MIR SE?  Even if not polished, it would be very nice to hear.

Thanks,

O

Yes, I am doing a large scale work and have not completed it but will put up some separate sections soon.  I realize you need as much RAM as you can beg, borrow or steal,  but the parts I have done so far made me think - the second I heard them -  I MUST USE MIR NO MATTER SACRIFICE IT DEMANDS.   If I am writing from jail  next time I post you will know what happened.

Posted on Sun, Sep 05 2010 20:39
by Stephen W. Beatty
Joined on Sun, Apr 27 2003, Wheat Ridge,CO, Posts 238

If you are interested in how the various venues sound in MIR log on to my you tube channel  http://www.youtube.com/user/Bachbeatty?feature=mhum  There are 42 examples they are organized in groups suberthall, morzarthall,  grosserhall The venue and microphone setup is given in the credits at the front and back of each example. 

Regards, 

Stephen W. Beatty

SWBEATTY
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