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Posted on Wed, Sep 01 2010 06:45
by veetguitar
Joined on Mon, Dec 23 2002, Posts 168

Hallo!

First of all congratulations for Vienna Instruments Pro!

It has exceeded my expectations by far. After going through all the videos and checking out most features, I can say that vi pro is loaded with meaningful stuff that will quickly become an integral part of my workflow.

I understand that it is also a developping project.

Here are some observations:

- Would it be possible to asign a controller for the root key of the matrix scale? The whole business of copying up to 12 matrixes with all different root keys seems unelegant. Moreover, in my case, I want to try to keep all the good things that vi pro is doing compatible with vst expression in Cubase 5. Workflow is super important!

I guess, that most people work out finer details later in the course of  project. I mean, when I decide that my piece needs some face lifitng in the tuning area, it should not affect my key switch organisation!

- Of course the choices of scales could be enlarged. But then it seems obvious that they should also be edible!

- There has been a very interesting discussion about Hermode tuning a while ago. Is there any chance that  this will be implied in the near future? It seems just like the easiest way to improve the overall sound of an orchestra.

Of course all those arabic turkish and just intonation scales are extremely important for certain types of music. (I played yesterday with the solo cello and some arabic tuning. It was just hilarious, how real it sounded and it changed the instrument into something totally different.)

-In Vienna Ensemble pro, I noticed that I could not change the scale in channel 2 after the scale was set in channel 1.

-Does that mean that the scale applies to the whole v pro instance?

website: veetguitar.de
Posted on Wed, Sep 01 2010 07:25
by mmeixner
Joined on Tue, Jun 09 2009, Vienna, Posts 47
veetguitar wrote:

Here are some observations:

- Would it be possible to asign a controller for the root key of the matrix scale?

+1 !

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Posted on Wed, Sep 01 2010 07:47
by mosso
Joined on Thu, Jun 23 2005, London, England, Posts 376

+1. Would be very handy if possible.

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Posted on Thu, Sep 02 2010 12:00
by veetguitar
Joined on Mon, Dec 23 2002, Posts 168
veetguitar wrote:
- Would it be possible to asign a controller for the root key of the matrix scale?

Even better if we could set the root key on the Vienna Ensemble level.

Just to imagine to go for just intonation for an orchestral arrangement in the current implementation seems like crossing the alps hiking.Tongue Tied

website: veetguitar.de
Posted on Thu, Sep 02 2010 12:13
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13437

Hi everybody,

we will look if and how we can integrate these ideas, thanks for your contribution!

Best,

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Sep 02 2010 13:22
by gyohng
Joined on Tue, Nov 22 2005, Posts 183

I think Hermode Tuning should be already supported, if I'm not mistaken.

Posted on Fri, Sep 03 2010 18:19
by veetguitar
Joined on Mon, Dec 23 2002, Posts 168
gyohng wrote:

I think Hermode Tuning should be already supported, if I'm not mistaken.

Could you explain?

website: veetguitar.de
Posted on Fri, Sep 03 2010 18:44
by gyohng
Joined on Tue, Nov 22 2005, Posts 183

If I remember properly, Logic Pro on Mac has built-in Hermode tuning functionality, which is possible to switch on. VIPro should recognize sysex sent by Hermode tuning in Logic, and react adequately.

This is not supported in other hosts, and it is also not built inside VIPro by itself. As for improving the orchestra sound, this is a desputed question. Many people believe, that due to limitations of it - it actually makes orchestra sound worse, with an exception of few instruments.

Posted on Thu, Feb 24 2011 11:20
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1137

I would like to see a midi input for defining globally the root. And not with a controller but with actual midi notes.

So I have one separate track in the sequencer on which I define the root simply with a note.

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