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  • Not spread nicely - not melted

    Well, somtimes I invite my wife to listen my work (film music, only VSL).

    She likes the tunes, but she often comments on a fact that my mixes are not spread nicely, and the instruments do not melt together, [:(]

    What is wrong?

    My room is acoustically treated and and many classical film music sound just amazing in it (other music, too - if it is made well).

    I think she misses the big Holywoodish sound....or?


  • Hello trifidmaster

    Could you offer us an example?

    All the best

    Beat Kaufmann


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/
  • Could you possibly have her audition the excellent demos on this site through the same sound system.  I realize that they are just MP3's but it would still be interesting to see if her opinion changes.

    Happy New Year[<:o)][D]


  • it is often hard for people to transfer the mockup into a real recorded version and they assume that wahat they are hearing is it.

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    @trifidmaster said:

    Well, somtimes I invite my wife to listen my work (film music, only VSL).

    She likes the tunes, but she often comments on a fact that my mixes are not spread nicely, and the instruments do not melt together,

    What is wrong?

    It doesn't sound like the records to her, so I guess it isn't really up to snuff as a production. What will be wrong is your mixing chops, then. Musicians don't sound fantastic right off the bat in their efforts and achieving convincing production values won't be very different in this regard.


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    @trifidmaster said:

    Well, somtimes I invite my wife to listen my work (film music, only VSL).

    Have you any idea how weird that sounds? [8-)]


  • Thanks to all of you for your reactions.

    I have recently purchased the VE Pro, and the "demo" template helped a lot in the melting process, [:)]

    And believe or not but she is now much more satsfied with the mix.

     

  • ...and now my head is deeply burried in Adler's book, and I have just started to study orchestration..


  •  Books are nice, don't get me wrong, but you also need to do a LOT of listening as well.

    I would highly recommend that you get a copy of "Stars Wars" Special Edition Soundtrack, the one from 1997 if at ALL possible, by any  means. If you can't find it, I guess the Sony Records version will have to suffice but the '97 issue is by far, the most superior version of this music to date.

    If you listen to this, ad naseum,you will, unconsciously, assimilate the rudiments of style and technique for everything involved in what you are striving to achieve. No, the goal is NOT to turn yourself into John Williams but, to get a first-class education from, arguably, one of the best composers EVER to grace a Hollywood Soundstage.Sharpen up your ears and also, read everything you can about the soundtrack-it can only benefit you in the long run.

    For the technical side of things, I offer up this invaluable document:

    http://www.malonedigital.com/starwars.pdf

    Burn a copy of this for yourself,put it in page protectors and a notebook. It is reference material that will never be old, in musical/technical terms.


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