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Posted on Sun, Jan 16 2011 15:47
by Pro-Arte
Joined on Thu, Feb 13 2003, Nice France, Posts 186

 Hello I read the Cubase 6 is out, is the  new vst expressions will change something for us ???Tongue Tied

Thank You,

GG

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Posted on Mon, Jan 17 2011 14:00
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 256

Well it needs to be implemented by the VI / VI-Pro ...

I will not upgrade for sure befor this is not available from VSL *G*

Studio One, Notion
Posted on Tue, Jan 18 2011 12:55
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3517

Hi Pro-Arte and Gabriel!

I made some tests with Cubase 6/VST Expression and our collections. Here are my impressions.

You can use the Expression Maps you find in your User Area with Cubase 5 and Cubase 6 the same way. Some things have been improved.
- You can use a MIDI controller (CC) that's used in an Expression Map live during playback or recording. That was not possible before.
- If you press one of the Remote Keys of the active Expression Map during recording, the according articulation gets an entry on the articulation lane.
- Articulation changes seem to work more stable.
- Dynamic mapping is a cool new feature that works without the need for any implementation from our side.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jan 18 2011 13:41
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 256

Hi Andi!

Thanks for answering this!

However i assume the Note Expression will not work with VSL (right now)

Please correct me if i am wrong

Best regards

Gabriel

Studio One, Notion
Posted on Tue, Jan 18 2011 13:53
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3517

Hi Gabriel!

Currently you can't use Note Expression with the Vienna Instruments (or VI Pro).

Best,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jan 18 2011 14:00
by Pro-Arte
Joined on Thu, Feb 13 2003, Nice France, Posts 186

 Thank You for the answers !!! What is note expression ??? Is the new feature like to do what Notion have for years ? I mean is the ppp near the note will perform ppp and cresc. doing a crescendo and so on ???

Thank You !!

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Posted on Tue, Jan 18 2011 14:09
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 256

Basic idea of Note Expression is that you can assign controllers on a per note base http://www.steinberg.net...new_features.html#c83963

However this depends on VST 3.5 (which is , as far as i know only available for Steinbergs HALion Sonic)

Studio One, Notion
Posted on Tue, Jan 18 2011 14:54
by Plougot
Joined on Mon, Jan 25 2010, Posts 87

VST Expressions might actually become handy, even though it's still not perfect. I still feel a bit like a walking and talking wallet (139 euros to upgrade and have... what... 3 new features and 2 old features enhanced ?) VST Expression should have been updated a long time ago...

But anyway, might be worth it, with the 64 bits support (finally) and the new way to edit automation (again, very useful for us, but not very complicated to program... and not very time consuming either... A year for this...)

And i'm pretty sure we will discover new bugs that will not be solved until Cubase 7. And maybe a few downgraded features, like audio stretching in cubase 5 (which had worse algorithms than before)

That's where you see the difference between VSL and Steinberg. Both are expensive, but only one is really doing its job correctly, and taking its customers into account.

Another astonishing new feature : you can know edit multiple tracks at the same time ! No ??!! must have been a very very long process to program such a complex feature. What sounds more astonishing to me is that it was not possible before...

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Posted on Thu, Jan 27 2011 10:27
by basso
Joined on Sat, Mar 01 2008, Buxted, East Sussex, UK, Posts 76
andi wrote:

Currently you can't use Note Expression with the Vienna Instruments (or VI Pro).

Best,
Andi

Is this a planned enhancement for VI pro in the near future?

Posted on Fri, Feb 11 2011 02:01
by JaredThirsk
Joined on Sun, Sep 14 2008, Calgary, Canada, Posts 5
andi wrote:

Currently you can't use Note Expression with the Vienna Instruments (or VI Pro).

Does 'Note Expression' work when there is only one note played at a time in the track?  If so, I would think it may at least be a little bit helpful in keeping CC and notes together if you moved them around.

(I'm also curious whether VI or VI Pro may be upgraded to VST3.5 to work with Note Expression.)

Posted on Fri, Feb 11 2011 06:13
by dorremifasol
Joined on Fri, Oct 22 2010, Barcelona, Posts 59

I have been using Cubase 6 for quite some time now and I'm very happy with it. The best so far IMHO, and the mosts stable 0.0 version I can remember. It's no perfect, though, but no program is.

Of course, you can use Note Expression with VI or any other standard 2.x plugin, the only difference is that expressions works for all the notes at the same time, just like any other CC message. MIDI has no support to send a CC to a single note.

However, having VI or VI Pro in VST3.5 format would be absolutely great. The ability to detune or crossfade individual notes in a chord would increase the usability of the libraries.

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Posted on Fri, Feb 11 2011 06:22
by Pro-Arte
Joined on Thu, Feb 13 2003, Nice France, Posts 186

 Go ahead VSL !!!Cool

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Posted on Wed, Sep 07 2011 11:20
by Debradgc
Joined on Wed, Sep 07 2011, Posts 1
Andi

Based in Fletching, do you use Cubase 6? Need some help
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Posted on Wed, Sep 07 2011 14:02
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3517

Hello Debra!

You are welcome to share your questions here on the forum with our community. It's also possible to contact us via support.

Best regards,
Andi 

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
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