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Editing multiple midi tracks in Logic's Piano Roll editor?
Last post Fri, Feb 18 2011 by oliva, 5 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Jan 29 2011 14:09
by Umesh Persad
Joined on Wed, Dec 31 2008, Posts 2
I am seeking some confirmation on what I have read so far with editing multiple midi tracks in Logic's piano roll editor. I am working on a four part string section using VSL (each part has its own track). I am able to see the the notes of the four tracks simultaneously in the piano roll editor when I select the four regions in the arrange window. However, I cannot add notes to more than one track at a time in the piano roll.

I am trying to accomplish editing as seen in the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uosSdHTOp3Y

Am I correct in assuming that this cannot be done in Logic's piano roll at this time?

Thanks,
Umesh
Posted on Sun, Jan 30 2011 17:45
by Mahlon
Joined on Sun, Jan 08 2006, The decadent South, Posts 441

 

Umesh Persad wrote:

I am seeking some confirmation on what I have read so far with editing multiple midi tracks in Logic's piano roll editor. I am working on a four part string section using VSL (each part has its own track). I am able to see the the notes of the four tracks simultaneously in the piano roll editor when I select the four regions in the arrange window. However, I cannot add notes to more than one track at a time in the piano roll. I am trying to accomplish editing as seen in the following video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uosSdHTOp3Y Am I correct in assuming that this cannot be done in Logic's piano roll at this time? Thanks, Umesh

 Umesh,

That looks like Sonar's piano roll editor (called PRV -- piano roll view) in the video. I'm interested in this, too, because I haven't found a way to enter multiple notes on the fly into more than one midi track in Sonar's PRV. What I suspect is happening is that the user is activiting the appropriate midi channel before he enters the new notes for the next instrument.

The drawback is, to my knowledge anyway, you can't enter a note for any channel without having that channel active in the right column -- and since you cannot select more than one channel in the right column at the same time, you cannot enter multiple notes for multiple channels at the same time.

Hope this helps. I'm not sure about Logic. And I wonder if what you ask is possible in Cubase. I'd like to know.

Mahlon

Posted on Thu, Feb 03 2011 16:42
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

In Cubase you can use the In-Place editor to edit multiple tracks quite flexible, though it doesn't offer the layered view from the video.

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Feb 10 2011 17:27
by Umesh Persad
Joined on Wed, Dec 31 2008, Posts 2
I've posted in other forums, and the answer I've got is that it is possible to work with multiple tracks while option clicking to switch between tracks in the arrange window. Notes from the different tracks could be moved in the one view. But you are right, you can't enter notes for multiple tracks at a time. I was also wondering if midi expression controller data be applied to a group of midi tracks at a time? For example, if I have three tracks with violins, violas and cellos, how could I group them and apply the same expression curves to all of them together rather than doing it one at a time?
Posted on Fri, Feb 18 2011 13:09
by oliva
Joined on Fri, Jun 30 2006, Posts 19

Heee Umesh,

I also work with one piano-window in Logic with multiple tracks selected. For sure Logic respondes tricky or deselects the other tracks when cutting a note etc. but in general it is possible to select (also multiple) and move/shift/copy all the notes there. Only thing: you cannot easily copy (by drag+alt/drop) one note of eg. the violins region to the cellos region so you have to keep track of who is playing what voice.

For the multiple expression control just record-enable all the tracks you want to record with the same expression and, well, record and express :)

The track you are on while recording will be the "master" region and all the other record-enabled tracks will feature an alias to that master. So if you wanna edit the expression for all tracks later you edit the master.

I hope this could help a little but maybe you were actually asking for way more advaced technics... I'm a simple man.... If you already got some better solutions, let me know!

Best, Oliver

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