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MIR PRO: Around the corner?
Last post Sun, Oct 16 2011 by Dietz, 229 replies.
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Posted on Tue, May 03 2011 16:35
by mon_art
Joined on Sat, Oct 23 2004, Switzerland, Posts 65

Yes: it will be ready when it's ready. So... is it ready, yet? Big Smile The HERD (highly expected release date) was "first half of 2011". Is this still true?

I'm specially eager for the LAN based solution of MIR PRO. Right now, all my VSL stuff is on a slave server (without any soundcard) connected with VE PRO to my DAW, so I can't even test MIR. Crying

Second question: Will VE PRO become obsolete if you use MIR PRO?

Tags: MIR Pro
Posted on Tue, May 03 2011 21:39
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7434

Thanks for your interest, Mon-art. MIR Pro is around two corners ;-). "First half of 2011" is still our goal, although it might be some kind of photo-finish.

VE Pro will not be obsolete, quite on the contrary. You will be able to use VE- and MIR-features within one application.

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, May 03 2011 22:20
by jammusique
Joined on Wed, Aug 04 2004, Paris, France, Posts 258

Excellent ! Beer

WW complete. MirX Teldex, Cubase, PC
Posted on Wed, May 04 2011 13:06
by cgernaey
Joined on Mon, Apr 04 2005, Detroit-Michigan, Posts 1054

Dietz,

I was hoping you wouldn't mind me asking one question about MIR Pro as I will be definitely using it.  Will the "requirements" for the machine increase all that much if any to use MIR Pro as they are currently with the full version of MIR?  I realize that you can network it like VE Pro however I am all about single machine implementations and so I need to plan my laptop purchase accordingly.  Would it be fair to say that a machine that is perfectly running MIR full version, a sequencer and all samples etc on one machine is safe with the upgrade to MIR Pro or should we consider buying even more horse power?

Thanks as always Dietz!

Maestro2be

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, 128GB RAM, AMD 3970X 32-core
Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme, Radeon RX 5500 XT
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Posted on Wed, May 04 2011 16:45
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7434

Form today's point-of-view, MIR Pro should have basically more or less the same system requirements as Vienna MIR. Due to the fact that you will want to use all the new features too, you may still need more power in the end. ;-)

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, May 05 2011 08:24
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

What I'm hoping for is to be able to use MIR Pro as some sort of insert, so that I can render my virtual instruments to audio, feed them into MIR and get whatever stems I need out. As my computer can't run my template in the current version of MIR at any buffer, I'm hoping that removing the VSTi part of the equation will mean that I don't have to upgrade my studio again this year.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
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Posted on Fri, May 06 2011 08:43
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7434

I think you will love MIR Pro, Daryl. :-)

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, May 06 2011 09:13
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

I'm already aroused... Geeked

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Fri, May 06 2011 11:39
by Vagn Luv
Joined on Sun, Apr 02 2006, Copenhagen, DK, Posts 271

Aroused isn't the word, I'm all pointy like a strategic ICBM!Stick out tongue You have a fantastic thing going, Dietz.

Btw, what do you mean with:

Dietz wrote:

MIR Pro is around two corners ;-). "First half of 2011" is still our goal, although it might be some kind of photo-finish.

2 corners? Photo-finish?

If first half of 2011 is your goal, that means you have 56 days to get her out into space - which makes me a very happy camper!Big Smile

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Posted on Sat, May 07 2011 08:41
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7434

Guys, this is software development! ;-)) What I was trying to say is that MIR Pro is on its way, but I can't promise that we will be ready not later than the end of June. Thanks for your patience!

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, May 11 2011 17:21
by IOANNIS SAOULIS
Joined on Sun, Jan 02 2005, Greece, Posts 8

Hi there,

It is the first time I am writing in this forum.

My question is the next>

I am running an Accel3 ProTools system and MIR on the same computer.

a supermicro DP Motherboard X8DA6 / 2 x XEON CPU E5620 @ 2.40GHz / 28GB Ram.

I am allocating 8 cores for MIR and 8 for PT.

Will this be suficient enough for MIR Pro? And ...How could I allocate in the best possible manner the resources of this machine in order to keep PT and MIR happy?

Please advise

Yannis Saoulis
PC1: Intel i7 8 core / 64Gb Ram,
PC2: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x 12 core / 64GB
ProTools HDX/OMNI, C|24.
VSL Synchroon Library, VIENNA ENSEMBLE PRO 7, EPIC ORCHESTRA 2.0 Library,SYNCHRON-ized DIMENSION BRASS I Standard Library, SYNCHRON PERCUSSION I Standard Library, YAMAHA CFX Full Library, SYNCHRON STRINGS I Full Library, VI libraries
Posted on Wed, May 11 2011 23:02
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7434

Welcome ys_11062, thanks for your interest in Vienna MIR and MIR Pro.

You are most certainly aware of the fact that you will need a 64-bit OS to use MIR. 28 GB should be plenty for the typical "big" project, but maybe not when ProTools does a lot of RAM-intensive jobs too. 8 cores will make MIR happy, as long as you don't reach for really dense arrangements in multi-channel formats. The guidlines for optimum resource management will be in MIR Pro's manual (... please remember, we're still in Beta-phase).

BTW .... RAM size is not the only crucial parameter, but also its bus speed. The quite unusual size of 28 GB makes me suspect that there could be a bottleneck somewhere, depending in your specific configuration. - I would have to ask our local IT-gurus for an educated opinion, though. :-)

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, May 12 2011 12:04
by hose
Joined on Fri, Nov 09 2007, Posts 153

Therefore I am assuming that there will be a reasonable upgrade path for users who own MIR, and perhaps for those who own both MIR and VE pro? Smile

Posted on Thu, May 12 2011 12:24
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
hose wrote:

Therefore I am assuming that there will be a reasonable upgrade path for users who own MIR, and perhaps for those who own both MIR and VE pro? Smile

It has already been stated that there will be an upgrade path for current MIR users. However, as there was no discount for VE Pro users when getting MIR, I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
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Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Thu, May 12 2011 12:47
by hose
Joined on Fri, Nov 09 2007, Posts 153

The only reason I mentioned it since Dietz said that MIR pro would be like MIR and VE pro in one application. So I thought...

Posted on Thu, May 12 2011 16:14
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7434

That's obviously a question for our marketing team, but I can assure you that I will stick up personally for very reasonable up- and crossgrades for our loyal customers.

BTW ... it won't be the "VE Pro" you know by now that MIR Pro will use as underlying platform (... hint, hint ;-) ...).

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, May 12 2011 18:05
by hose
Joined on Fri, Nov 09 2007, Posts 153

Thats good news! Can't wait:)

Posted on Fri, May 13 2011 09:06
by IOANNIS SAOULIS
Joined on Sun, Jan 02 2005, Greece, Posts 8

Hi Dietz thank you for the reply.

I am on 64bit and I will give a look at the bus speed. For the time being the projects are quite OK (around 16 instruments in MIR and 24-36 audio channels in Pro Tools). I do not expirience problems. 

I did ask about MIR Pro because I am producing in music combine ethnic instruments(PT) and Symphonic sound (MIR). I would love to have all the sound in the same space though.

I have two more questions:

a) when I uncheck Natural Volume and try to re-edit the Instrument Profile the Natural Volume is still Checked though the Volume is changed.

b) After starting MIR some times apears the Ensemble Pro (under MIR) some times does not. Do I something wrong?

Yannis Saoulis
PC1: Intel i7 8 core / 64Gb Ram,
PC2: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x 12 core / 64GB
ProTools HDX/OMNI, C|24.
VSL Synchroon Library, VIENNA ENSEMBLE PRO 7, EPIC ORCHESTRA 2.0 Library,SYNCHRON-ized DIMENSION BRASS I Standard Library, SYNCHRON PERCUSSION I Standard Library, YAMAHA CFX Full Library, SYNCHRON STRINGS I Full Library, VI libraries
Posted on Fri, May 13 2011 11:20
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7434

ad a) Natural Volume - this is by design. The "Natural Volume" is meant to be used as a starting point and is only available when instantiating a new instrument within MIR. You are right that the fact that the option stays selected visually once you have changed the volume according to your needs might be misleading. - With MIR Pro, you will be able to return to this reference point at any time.

ad b) This shouldn't happen. Are you able to reproduce this behaviour consistently? - In any case, it doesn't hurt the actual function of MIR.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, May 13 2011 11:28
by IOANNIS SAOULIS
Joined on Sun, Jan 02 2005, Greece, Posts 8

Hi Dietz,

its not consistent and I have no problem with MIR. I just did not understand.

Thank you any how

Yannis Saoulis
PC1: Intel i7 8 core / 64Gb Ram,
PC2: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x 12 core / 64GB
ProTools HDX/OMNI, C|24.
VSL Synchroon Library, VIENNA ENSEMBLE PRO 7, EPIC ORCHESTRA 2.0 Library,SYNCHRON-ized DIMENSION BRASS I Standard Library, SYNCHRON PERCUSSION I Standard Library, YAMAHA CFX Full Library, SYNCHRON STRINGS I Full Library, VI libraries
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