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Values for PPP PP P MP MF F FF..... in Xfade
Last post Sat, Jun 25 2011 by Beat Kaufmann, 9 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Jun 08 2011 18:21
by Vasa
Joined on Fri, Feb 19 2010, Posts 20

Hello everybody.

I wpould like to  ask if someone know the relative Values for Dinamics indication.

To  control th Dynamics I use the Velocyte Xfade which as range has 0 to 127

can someone indicate me which are the relative values to obtain this kind of dynamic?

PPP=

PP

P

Mp..... an so on

thank  you  so much in advance

Lausanne / Switzerland
Posted on Wed, Jun 08 2011 20:37
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 259

This is different from library to library and also different between the patches (even with same number o velocity layers) However this information (for the velocity layers) is in the library manuals.

However i would recommend not to use these values as 100% values, just slide it up until it sounds you want it to sound ;)

Posted on Wed, Jun 08 2011 21:56
by Vasa
Joined on Fri, Feb 19 2010, Posts 20

Thank you  again

I asked this because I use Cubase 6 with with Expresionn map

and normally I make my variation with the CC11 driving the xfade

sometimes I would like to  use also the dynamic Signature and then re-touch with mx CC11

but If I do not know the prevois values of Dinamic signature is very hard to  get

I rember that once Isaw somtehnog about that in the forum but I cannot find it no more

help?????

Lausanne / Switzerland
Posted on Thu, Jun 09 2011 09:30
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 259

Hi vasa!

Did you check in the manual oyu have information like

3 velocity layers: 0–55 p; 56–108 mp; 109–127 f

on a per patch base ...

Posted on Thu, Jun 09 2011 22:39
by Vasa
Joined on Fri, Feb 19 2010, Posts 20

Thank you Gabriel !!

Yes I checked and also I made a simple file with Cubase 6 using all Dynamic Symbols and so I get all the values.
I am thinking to  make a post in the forum, may someone else need that, what do  you think?

Lausanne / Switzerland
Posted on Fri, Jun 10 2011 10:09
by gabriel81
Joined on Tue, Nov 17 2009, Wien, Posts 259

Well my experience with Cubase and Expression Maps is that the mapping of dynamic symbols is quite useless, as the velocity xfade needs to be adjusted also during a note event.

Unfortunately cubase does not allow to controll a CC over the track as well as over expression maps so my way was to only use the faders for velocity XF

Best regards

Gabriel

P.S.: I am also novice so, don't give too much about my opinion ;)

Posted on Sat, Jun 11 2011 18:25
by Vasa
Joined on Fri, Feb 19 2010, Posts 20

Hi Gabriel,

also me i had so many problems with Vst expression because becaue  the CC11 that's why I work in just little different mode.

try to check one of my post named " How do I work"

now I found few solution that can make the job littler easier.

The Dynamic indications in this way are vere useful and when I retouch the volume now know the values where to start from.

let me know

See you

Lausanne / Switzerland
Posted on Sun, Jun 19 2011 05:30
by GoranTch
Joined on Tue, Mar 14 2006, Berlin, Germany, Posts 528
gabriel81 wrote:

Well my experience with Cubase and Expression Maps is that the mapping of dynamic symbols is quite useless, as the velocity xfade needs to be adjusted also during a note event.

This is a very important point. Static dynamics will bring you nowhere when arranging pieces in which the dynamics and intensity of notes vary over time (such as, for example, almost all things strings).

Posted on Sat, Jun 25 2011 15:34
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1781

Hello Vasa, hello all

Here is an additional Link for adjusting the dynamic within the Vienna Instrument.

(It has to do with the midi-levels you mentioned above...)

Adjusting the dynamic range

All the best

Beat

www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
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