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Last post Tue, Jun 28 2011 by luk02, 11 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Jun 27 2011 13:37
by luk02
Joined on Fri, Jun 10 2011, Posts 7
Hello,


first sorry for my English.
I hear click in flutes legato transition (14S FL1, 15S FL1) beetween A4 and E5 with louder velocity layer. Do I have demaged sample? Does enyone have the same problem?




Łukasz
Posted on Mon, Jun 27 2011 14:14
by dayadon
Joined on Fri, Aug 03 2007, Posts 172

Hi, Lukasz.

Let the community know what your computer setup is, including memory, hard drives, speed of computer, Audio Interface, DAW, etc.  It could be one or more of a few things that makes this happen.

I don't think it's likely to be damaged samples, but that's a possibility.  You can permanently put your setup information in the signature portion of your PROFILE, so people can see it whenever you leave a message.

Dennis

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Posted on Mon, Jun 27 2011 15:14
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

 I have no idea what 14S and 15S means, but with Flute 1 Perf legato, playing A4 to E5 I hear a cross-fingering, but no click.

DG

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Posted on Mon, Jun 27 2011 15:34
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5398

 I didn't audition that particular sample but have never noticed this.  Many of the woodwinds have audible key clicks on legato transitions like what you would hear live. 

Posted on Tue, Jun 28 2011 00:59
by luk02
Joined on Fri, Jun 10 2011, Posts 7
dayadon wrote:
Let the community know what your computer setup is
You're right, thanks. But I don't think that the computer setup is the problem. Every other sample works great.

DG wrote:
I have no idea what 14S and 15S means
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I have Special Edition. These are the numbers of patches. Legato and legato-sus have 2 velocity layers. The problem is in forte. I made a mistake, click is between A5 and E6 (Presonus StudioOne has different numbers of MIDI keys). I mean the a" 2-line and e″′ 3-line octave.

William wrote:
Many of the woodwinds have audible key clicks on legato transitions like what you would hear live.
I know. That's not it.

Thanks for all the replies.
Łukasz
Posted on Tue, Jun 28 2011 07:56
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

luk02 wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I have Special Edition. These are the numbers of patches. Legato and legato-sus have 2 velocity layers. The problem is in forte. I made a mistake, click is between A5 and E6 (Presonus StudioOne has different numbers of MIDI keys). I mean the a" 2-line and e″′ 3-line octave.

Thanks for all the replies.
Łukasz

 

I think you mean A 1 line. Wink

I'll check when I'm back in the studio later today.

DG

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Posted on Tue, Jun 28 2011 08:43
by luk02
Joined on Fri, Jun 10 2011, Posts 7
DG wrote:
I think you mean A 1 line. Wink
No, A5, a 2 line, 880Hz.
Posted on Tue, Jun 28 2011 09:03
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

luk02 wrote:
DG wrote:
I think you mean A 1 line. Wink
No, A5, a 2 line, 880Hz.
 

If you are talking about the treble clef, A5 is one ledger line up.

DG

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Posted on Tue, Jun 28 2011 10:37
by luk02
Joined on Fri, Jun 10 2011, Posts 7
DG wrote:

luk02 wrote:
DG wrote:
I think you mean A 1 line. Wink
No, A5, a 2 line, 880Hz.
 

If you are talking about the treble clef, A5 is one ledger line up.

True. We are talking about the same note. A-880Hz is on the first ledger line above the treble clef staff and is on the two-line octave (Helmholtz system), and A5. It's only notation, just like note B is known as Si, Ti or H in German method.

...another problem is my English...
Posted on Tue, Jun 28 2011 11:22
by andyjh
Joined on Wed, Dec 15 2010, Posts 600
You should forget the Helmholtz system, it has no reference in the modern computer based world, and will only confuse things - which you have already proved. The system uses apostrophe's to denote octaves, but referring to these as lines will only confuse things more, and you have to get superscripts, subscripts and capitalisation in the right place or the system is even more confusing.

You are correct in so far as your offending A5 is a'', but perhaps wrong to refer to the apostrophes as lines (as this implies ledger lines). So if you stick with VSL naming schemes of A5 and E6, then everyone knows what you mean.

I don't have the Special Edition libraries, but everything is OK with the main Flute I library.
Posted on Tue, Jun 28 2011 14:21
by luk02
Joined on Fri, Jun 10 2011, Posts 7
This is my click. I can use low-cut filter, sustain sample transition, but I think I will have to reinstall the library...

thanks
Łukasz
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