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Posted on Sun, Aug 07 2011 01:32
by Jmichael
Joined on Sun, Aug 07 2011, Posts 9
They said they sent you guys the information on how to fix it, and I was just wondering how that is going?
Posted on Sun, Aug 07 2011 09:31
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

Has VSL agreed that it's a VSL bug? If not, then you're wasting your time hoping for a fix here.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Sun, Aug 07 2011 12:55
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12049

Hello Jmichael, 

can you give us a few more informations?

Who did you talk to at East West, and who did they contact at VSL? Also, which system is this happening on?

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Aug 07 2011 23:47
by Jmichael
Joined on Sun, Aug 07 2011, Posts 9
His name is Jonathan Kranz. Here is the thread...
http://www.soundsonline-...m/showthread.php?t=37299

I'm just using the demo so I thought it might be a problem with just the demo version, but other people seem to be having this problem as well.

I'm excited to buy VE Pro cause it works great, except for this one issue. And the epic orchestra pack is an amazing deal! Legato flute...oh man.
Posted on Mon, Aug 08 2011 13:51
by darkmatter
Joined on Thu, Oct 08 2009, Posts 49
Any news on this issue re samples double loading in Play 3 in Ve Pro?
Is this happening across the board with P3 and Ve Pro?

Im about to update Play and Ve Pro,but I need to know first.


Dean.
Posted on Mon, Aug 08 2011 20:47
by gen0use
Joined on Fri, Jun 18 2010, Posts 24
I can confirm there are issues with Play 3, in fact I just tried the updated v3.0.21 (VEP version is 4.1.8008) and still the patches load for ages or will stop loading altogether. Don't know if its a VEP issue as I don't use Play with anything else.
Win7 x64 SP1 PT HD v9.0.3, VEP v5.0.9687
Posted on Tue, Aug 09 2011 11:56
by oliva
Joined on Fri, Jun 30 2006, Posts 19

Same here (Play 3.0.20, VEP v4.1.8008) and when trying to change the midi channel within play the play gui crashed and freezed, had to delete the instrument and load again. I'm not a programer so i can't tell but I have had so many bad experiences befor with Play and Logic alone, from crashes to freezes to destroying the whole logic song.

Has anyone so far experiences with Play 2 in VEP? Are the problems caused mainly by the Play 3 update?

Posted on Tue, Aug 09 2011 12:45
by Andreas Waldetoft
Joined on Sun, Jun 15 2003, Posts 17

I have problem as well within vepro regarding new play 3. It loads really really painfully slow or not at all

Posted on Tue, Aug 09 2011 14:21
by dagmarpiano
Joined on Thu, Feb 14 2008, Merseyside, UK, Posts 144

Right I have this slow loading problem too





With this combination:

Play 3.0.21 (Windows 7, 64 bit) in VE PRO
VE PRO 4.1.8008 (in Windows 7, 64 bit version)
Cubase 6.0.3 (in OSX Lion, 32bit version)
Hollywood Strings Diamond edition.



 As a workaround, if you create a VE PRO template with the same sounds as your projects and load that manually into VE PRO before you load your main host project, it loads quickly.  This seems to be because it is re-using the samples already loaded instead of trying to find them again.

i7 27" iMac | 16GB RAM | OSX 10.7.2 LION I Sandy Bridge PC Slave with OCZ Vertex 3 SSDs |
VI Symphonic Cube | Cubase 6.0.5 |

Dan Graham Popplewell

Indie Pop Star (c. 1999) - www.ooberman.net
Trailer Music Writer
Concept Pop Pioneer - www.themagictheatre.net
Sample Library Producer - Zero G Animato & Spiritoso
Trailer Music Label President - www.gothic-storm.com
Posted on Thu, Aug 11 2011 18:20
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1632
oliva wrote:

Has anyone so far experiences with Play 2 in VEP? Are the problems caused mainly by the Play 3 update?

Play 2 more or less works in VE Pro. There isn't any loading problem.

As per EWQL's claims of what's wrong, they have been an unreliable narrator regarding VE Pro in the past.

MacBook Pro 15,1: 2.9 GHz 6-core i9
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
OSX 10.14.5
VE Pro 7
Posted on Thu, Aug 11 2011 18:23
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1632
dagmarpiano wrote:

 create a VE PRO template with the same sounds as your projects and load that manually into VE PRO before you load your main host project, it loads quickly.  

Do you mean decoupling projects and handling VE Pro separately as opposed to letting Cubase load them from an empty metaframe?

MacBook Pro 15,1: 2.9 GHz 6-core i9
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
OSX 10.14.5
VE Pro 7
Posted on Thu, Aug 11 2011 18:33
by dagmarpiano
Joined on Thu, Feb 14 2008, Merseyside, UK, Posts 144

kind of. you load the template metaframe as if it is to be a separate uncoupled template, but then you load the sounds which are part of the host project anyway, coupled. Therefore it loads the same sounds twice in different instances of PLAY - (a) the ones you first loaded, which are unconnected and unused, and (b) the instances you loaded while loading the host project.

this is fine because PLAY doesn't reload samples already used elsewhere, therefore the unused instances don't take up any extra memory, with the advantage that this problem is worked around.

i7 27" iMac | 16GB RAM | OSX 10.7.2 LION I Sandy Bridge PC Slave with OCZ Vertex 3 SSDs |
VI Symphonic Cube | Cubase 6.0.5 |

Dan Graham Popplewell

Indie Pop Star (c. 1999) - www.ooberman.net
Trailer Music Writer
Concept Pop Pioneer - www.themagictheatre.net
Sample Library Producer - Zero G Animato & Spiritoso
Trailer Music Label President - www.gothic-storm.com
Posted on Thu, Aug 11 2011 18:44
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1632

alright, I follow you, but does it load but the one time as a metaframe or vi frame on the slave side? Is this a workaround for people that like coupling the seq. and VE Pro projects in other words. I always decouple which obviates many problems with loading.

I haven't loaded Play 3, tbh I don't trust the Play engine in VE Pro until I see others using it. Play 2 in VE Pro was a fiasco until finally EWQL fixed it (claiming all the while 'not our problem').

MacBook Pro 15,1: 2.9 GHz 6-core i9
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
OSX 10.14.5
VE Pro 7
Posted on Thu, Aug 11 2011 21:04
by brett
Joined on Fri, Aug 19 2005, Australia, Posts 78

I too am interested in the progress of this issue (PLAY3 + VEP compatibility). I'm having big problems with Choirs and WB multis (stuck notes, severe unrecoverable cubase crashes) and updated to PLAY3 to see if that had been addressed. I should have read the forums first!

For my part, the loading of instruments in VEP with PLAY3 simply takes forever.  I gave up after waiting 40min for my template to load and rolled back to the latest PLAY2

Posted on Sat, Aug 13 2011 21:02
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

I have the same problem. Actually I think it loads them about 3-4 times here... But as described, it takes much shorter to load the 2nd, 3rd etc time because samples are already in memory. But it is an annoyance. This is with newest version of PLAY, newest Vienna Ens. Pro on a PC running Windows 7.

- Simon Ravn
Posted on Tue, Aug 16 2011 20:54
by Jmichael
Joined on Sun, Aug 07 2011, Posts 9
Any update?
Posted on Wed, Aug 17 2011 14:55
by wolfgang
Joined on Fri, Jun 13 2003, Long Island, NY, Posts 134

I'm anxious to hear how the solution to this issue is progressing as well.

Posted on Wed, Aug 17 2011 20:12
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1632

well, I finally tried it, loaded a couple of things from RA, which loaded but once and quick.

edit: OSX.6.8, VE Pro 4.8008, decoupled from Cubase.

I would personally avoid coupling an instance containing something reported as dodgy with the seq. host. 

MacBook Pro 15,1: 2.9 GHz 6-core i9
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
OSX 10.14.5
VE Pro 7
Posted on Wed, Aug 17 2011 20:34
by ptlover
Joined on Tue, Feb 08 2011, Posts 117

 Is this only a problem with coupled metaframes?

Stig-R. Eliassen

Master: PT 7.4.2 HD3 Accel | Dual 2.3 G5 w/6.5GB RAM | 10.5.8 | 192 I/O | D-Command ES
Slave: VE Pro 5.0.10309 | 6-core 3.33 Westmere w/24GB RAM | 10.6.8
Posted on Wed, Aug 17 2011 20:45
by Simon Ravn
Joined on Tue, Dec 10 2002, Copenhagen, Denmark, Posts 350

Nope, I never have anything coupled and I still have the problem.

- Simon Ravn
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