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VE Pro 5 and 5.1 routing into Pro Tools
Last post Sun, Nov 20 2011 by john_1332, 4 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Nov 20 2011 05:36
by john_1332
Joined on Thu, Feb 13 2003, Posts 109

I made a 5.1 aux in Pro Tools and was happy to see a 5.1 version on the Vienna Ensemble Pro plugin available. However, the plugin sends audio into the aux as L, R, C, Lfe, Ls, Rs and Pro Tools is expecting L,C,R,Ls,Rs,Lfe. I've tried all the preferences in both programs and can't figure out how to allign the channel order. I suppose I could do the old fashioned method of having two stereo and two mono aux tracks, but I would rather have one 5.1 aux if possible. Am I missing something obvious?
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Posted on Sun, Nov 20 2011 10:59
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

Sounds like a bug has crept in there. I'll get it fixed asap. Thanks for reporting.

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Sun, Nov 20 2011 11:20
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

 I may be wrong, but I think the current way is correct for everything except Pro Tools, which does it another way.

DG

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Posted on Sun, Nov 20 2011 12:34
by john_1332
Joined on Thu, Feb 13 2003, Posts 109

I think you need to add a 5.1 channel configuration  in the Server Interface preferences that has L,C,R,Ls,Rs,Lfe.  Pro Tools calls this layout "C|24/Film" and the other method "ITC/SMPTE."  While you can change the Default Monitor Format in the Output pane of the I/O Setup you can't change it in the internal bussing.  

The work-around I made is to create a 5.1 bus that I call "VEP REDIRECT", make Sub-Paths in that bus in the ITC order and then have two stereo and two mono auxes in my session that go to the correct speakers.  I can hide these four auxes so that I don't have to see them or think about them.  While this fixes the panning, I still can't get a stereo signal from VE Pro into the subwoofer.  I'll have to experiment some more.

EDIT:  Only slightly more sophisticated solution:  create a 6.1 VE PRo instance, then in Pro Tools I can have a 5.1 subpath.  In the VEP Surround Panner I can disable the center rear speaker.  Still can't get LFE from the surround panner.
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