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Last post Thu, Dec 01 2011 by snakenewton, 15 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Nov 25 2011 01:40
by maxtony
Joined on Sun, Nov 15 2009, Earth, Posts 1
Hello,

i have few logic pro projects using VEP4 with a fine tuned delay ! now with VEP5 and full ADC these latency settings
are not working in my projects. so is there are way to turn of ADC on VEP5 and make it work like VEP4 everytime i need to?

Best
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Posted on Fri, Nov 25 2011 18:37
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

Currently it's not possible to disable plugin latency compensation, but I'll make sure to add an option to disable it in the next update.

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Nov 25 2011 23:34
by vosk
Joined on Tue, Jul 08 2008, Posts 135

This is a miracle or it should be? :)

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Cubase 6, VE PRO 5 on slave comp. Without insert effects (clean). ASIO - 6 ms (RME AIO). Delay compensation on ( UserPostedImage ).

Posted on Sat, Nov 26 2011 21:23
by treason
Joined on Sat, Apr 02 2011, Posts 24

I did the same experiment in Pro Tools 9HD (44.1kHz 24bit Session) on Snow Leopard w/VEP 5 (9735) ... here's what I found:

Buffers:          Sample Delay from MIDI Source (samples)

4 Buffers :          2 Samples

3 Buffers:           2 Samples

2 Buffers:       256 Samples

1 Buffer:             2 Samples

0 Buffers:           2 Samples

VSL - comments on setup?  

treason
Posted on Sat, Nov 26 2011 21:53
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

I just verified and fixed this issue. Current version of VE Pro 5 always processes at 4 buffers latency when set to 2 & 3 buffers and doesn't compensate the latency correctly. A new update will arrive tomorrow or possibly the day after. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Nov 28 2011 20:31
by vosk
Joined on Tue, Jul 08 2008, Posts 135

Yes! Now correct compensation for all buffers set! Yes

Posted on Tue, Nov 29 2011 20:09
by shansen_15911
Joined on Fri, Aug 26 2005, Posts 10

No, not here: automatic latency compensation is NOT working with Logic (9.1.5) and the actual VEPro 5.0.9753

Posted on Tue, Nov 29 2011 20:21
by shansen_15911
Joined on Fri, Aug 26 2005, Posts 10

to be more precise: latency compensation does not work at all, the only setup without latency is "none"....

Posted on Tue, Nov 29 2011 20:23
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

Logic doesn't always update latency compensation as it should. Usually a start/stop of the Logic transport makes it work. This is something we can't change unfortunately.

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Nov 29 2011 20:53
by shansen_15911
Joined on Fri, Aug 26 2005, Posts 10

Sorry, Karel, but this cannot be true. Start/stop commands do not change it - even a reload of the song or a reboot of Logic doesn´t make a difference. Latency Compensation simply does NOT work. And: it DID work BEFORE the upgrade.

Oh - and of course I checked "Enable PlugIn Latency Compensation" in the prefs....

Posted on Tue, Nov 29 2011 21:06
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

Please check your Logic settings. Preferences -> Audio -> General -> Plug-in Latency. Make sure Compensation is set to All there. I've just verified the latency compensation in Logic just to be sure and it works perfectly.

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Nov 29 2011 21:21
by shansen_15911
Joined on Fri, Aug 26 2005, Posts 10

Sorry I should have mentioned even this option: in Logic, delay compensation is (and always was) set to "all". 

Latency compensation in VEPro 5 does not work. 

Posted on Tue, Nov 29 2011 21:42
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

How exactly do you verify that it doesn't work?

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Nov 29 2011 22:16
by shansen_15911
Joined on Fri, Aug 26 2005, Posts 10

by having a percussiontrack playing via VEPro together with another one inside Logic.

But meanwhile a funny thing occured: while I was doing normal composing/arranging work and occasionally changing the VEPro buffer size from time to time to check if the bug still occurs, suddenly latency compensation worked fine. I then tried all buffer sizes - all worked like expected. 

Maybe the problem has to do with Logic´s "low latency"-mode, to which I switched several times - though the problem occured in "normal latency"-mode, too. It is my normal process to work that way, and before the update to 5, there was no latency problem when switching. Maybe you should do a little research in this direction.

Posted on Thu, Dec 01 2011 20:01
by snakenewton
Joined on Fri, Aug 05 2011, Posts 3
I have a major issue with Latency comp too

Cubase 6.03
just downloaded latest build of vepro 5

sending via vepro input plugin from C6 on 1 macbook pro to another macbook pro running latest vepro 32 bit server

load 3 instances of waves L316 - really high latency on this plug makes it easy to hear straight away - on 1 path
second path is fed from same inputs and feeding same outputs as the first so in effect parallel with no plugin inserted

returning to C6 as an instrument etc

result: obvious delay WITHIN VEpro even thou the little counter is showing about 20000 samples as delay

so this is issue does not appear to be about bad reporting to the daw it seems that latency comp within vep is not working at all




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