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"Herb's Teldex Presets" now available for MIR Pro!
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Posted on Mon, Dec 05 2011 23:00
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759

Dear MIR Pro Users,

the eagerly awaited adaption of "Herb's Teldex Presets" for MIR Pro is now available in your User Area:

-> http://www.vsl.co.at/en/68/428/1957/1622.htm 

It comes in two sizes: Large Orchestra, and a smaller Special Edition-compatible setup.

Both setups are available in two flavours:  One for standard Vienna Instruments, and a dedictated VI Pro 2 version with preloaded (but inactivated) Presets.

... but read yourself what Herb has to say about them:

Herb wrote:

Dear MIR Pro users,

You may have heard and seen Teldex Studio Berlin for Vienna MIR Pro already. Being an important part of our RoomPack 2 – Studios & Soundstages, this world-famous studio offers the ideal acoustic environment for all kinds of contemporary orchestral music production.

 

Taking the release of Vienna MIR Pro as an opportunity, I would like to share
my personal "orchestral starting points" for this prestigious soundstage with you. One is a full-blown setup with about 50 Vienna Instruments for large symphonic arrangements, which in real life would amount to around
80 players. The second one is meant to be used with smaller ensembles; it uses 32 Vienna Instruments, which makes it a good choice for Vienna Special Edition users, too.

 

Both
presets are based on examples of typical orchestral recording sessions supplied
by the highly experienced, award-winning Teldex Studio staff themselves (see
their exemplary session layout on the next page). All Icons are pre-positioned, levelled, labelled and assigned to Groups. Many of them make use of MIR's unique Character Presets. The presets come in two versions. One uses the standard Vienna Instrument player that comes for free with our sample libraries. The other one makes use of the advanced feature of our brand-new
Vienna Instruments Pro 2.

 

In case of the standard Vienna Instruments, none of the players has any
sample data loaded. This is done on purpose: Personally, I tend to look at
these presets as an orchestra which has already taken seat, but no scores yet
on the music stands in front of the players. Depending on the task at hand I individually load selected Matrices into the Vienna Instruments I’m
planning to use. The beauty of this is that loading times are kept at a bare
minimum. RAM usage is no issue either, as the number of loaded samples is
totally scalable depending on the system's capabilities. Apart from that, these presets can be used with a diverse set of VSL products, be it the Special Editions, Download Libraries or DVD Collections, Standard or Extended content.

 

Vienna Instruments Pro 2 allows for a greatly enhanced
version of this concept: Here, the instruments have all the typical
articulations already assigned – but all Matrix-cells are saved in their “disabled”
state, meaning that all data are available according to individual needs at a
simple mouse-click, while no RAM is consumed until the sample data actually are loaded. In other words – every MIR Pro user is empowered to generate her or his own personal orchestral starting points from these basic setups.

 

Of
course, these presets don’t aspire to be an “instant mix”. Like me, you will
always find yourself changing some volume settings here, adding a plug-in
there, or moving one instrument to the other side, just because it fits in
better with a certain arrangement. It's also worth mentioning that I decided to stick to the smaller Boesendorfer Imperial grand piano instead of the much more elaborated Vienna Imperial, mostly in order to avoid any “Missing Instrument” messages for users who don’t own the latter yet.

 

I hope you’ll enjoy making music in this wonderful virtual hall as much as I do.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Herb Tucmandl – Founder and Managing Director, VSL

 

Operating instructions: Copy the files with the extension
VIFrame64 to an appropriate location on your hard-disk and open them from MIR
Pro's file dialog like any other project. If you make any changes, don’t forget
to save your results under a new filename in case you want to come back to the original Presets later.

 

This is what the Large Orchestra Preset will look like:

... and that's the SE-compatible setup:

Enjoy! :-)

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Dec 05 2011 23:18
by musos
Joined on Sun, Dec 08 2002, Johannesburg, South Africa, Posts 913

I don't know if it's just me, but instead of the images you obviously intended, I see this:

[MODERATOR'S EDIT: Picture of ImageShack's "Frozen Frog" removed for - uhm - better readability of this thread 8-) ...)

/Dietz]

Posted on Mon, Dec 05 2011 23:23
by musos
Joined on Sun, Dec 08 2002, Johannesburg, South Africa, Posts 913

I figured it out...

I have to also be registered at ImageShack and logged in before I can see the pictures.

I created an ImageShack account and I see them now.

Maybe this will help others who are seeing only frozen frogs....  Wink

Posted on Mon, Dec 05 2011 23:30
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759

Ooops!  Surprise  Sorry .... I will move the screenshots to our own server tomorrow.

(I hope you don't mind that I will delete the frozen frog then ... it's just soooooo ugly. ;-) ...)

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Dec 08 2011 21:03
by Pekay
Joined on Sun, Apr 26 2009, Stockholm, Posts 81

How can I download these presets?

Best

Paky

Posted on Thu, Dec 08 2011 21:08
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759


Dietz wrote:

Dear MIR Pro Users,


the eagerly awaited adaption of "Herb's Teldex Presets" for MIR Pro is now available in your User Area:


-> http://www.vsl.co.at/en/68/428/1957/1622.htm 


[...]





;-)

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Dec 10 2011 12:41
by ohho
Joined on Sun, Feb 16 2003, Posts 18

Hi,

Is there a function to load samples in those presets, or do i have to do it manually ?

Best Regards

Posted on Sat, Dec 10 2011 13:43
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759

Hi Olivier,

a right-click on an entrance of the Matrix List will open the context menu where you will find a command for enabling the whole Matrix. Alternatively you can also enable an individual Cell.

It's described on p. 24 of the VI Pro 2 Manual -> http://dl.vsl.co.at/downloader.aspx?ID=7413

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Dec 10 2011 14:26
by ohho
Joined on Sun, Feb 16 2003, Posts 18

Hi Dietz,

Thanks for your answer !!!

Best Regards

Posted on Sat, Dec 10 2011 19:42
by aplanchard
Joined on Tue, Feb 06 2007, New York City, Posts 144

Hi Dietz,

Do you have a sense of whether the Teldex large ensemble preset will run on a Mac Pro 2.66 ghz (8-core, 32GB ram), together with a DAW (DP 7 or Logic 8)?

Posted on Sat, Dec 10 2011 20:05
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759

Hi,

I just replied to your question in this thread: -> http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/30403.aspx

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Dec 16 2011 17:44
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759

Better now than never ... the screenshots are available again (see above). :-)

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Dec 16 2011 21:32
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2699

Hello Dietz

I have ask you a few questions why dont you answer to my questions ! are you angry with me ? 

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Dec 16 2011 22:00
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759

Cyril, Marnix from VSL Support already asked you to get in contact with him. He has a Logic-centered setup at his disposal and will hopefully be able guide you
step by step through the issues you seem to encounter.

... please, don't hi-jack threads with off-topic messages. Thanks!

Regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Dec 17 2011 04:29
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2699

Hello Dietz and Marnix

On  my side I have been testing solutions and I have improvements and the problem is well encircle

- The engine is not fast enought to treat eight notes at 54 bpm !!! or is missing end of notes

I have ask you both 3 basic question :

  • Is VE using CPU power for a VI that is not used ?
  • If I mute a VI does it uses power too ?
  • From your experience what is the max number of VI used should I get on my Macpro


why cant I get an aswer ? is is secret ?

So it is your fault if I have hyjacked this discussion

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Sat, Dec 17 2011 11:49
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759

Cyril, I know it is always VSL's fault in your eyes.

Please read this thread: -> http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/30702.aspx

TIA,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Jan 12 2012 12:43
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
So, I will see it in the linked page, after I buy the Room Pakcs 2, right? Before, I can't see this.
***
www.majstudio.com
Mac Pro 8-core; 16GB RAM
Logic 9 or Digital Performer 7
SE&SE+; Orchestral Strings I + Extended; Woodwinds I; Vienna Choir I + Extended
VSL Suite; VSL VEPro 5 & MIR Pro
Posted on Thu, Jan 12 2012 13:38
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759
MAJ wrote:
So, I will see it in the linked page, after I buy the Room Pakcs 2, right? Before, I can't see this.

Yes, that's right.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Jan 12 2012 21:55
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
Is there anyone, who tried these presets, please? How does it sounds?
***
www.majstudio.com
Mac Pro 8-core; 16GB RAM
Logic 9 or Digital Performer 7
SE&SE+; Orchestral Strings I + Extended; Woodwinds I; Vienna Choir I + Extended
VSL Suite; VSL VEPro 5 & MIR Pro
Posted on Thu, Jan 12 2012 22:10
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7759

I have no ready-made demo at hand, but Jay Bacal used a similar setup to Herb's "Full Orchestra" in his version of Star Wars' "Main Theme". Jay used the Teldex Studio in its "wide" orientation, but the sonic signature is more or less the same.

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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