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Posted on Wed, Jan 04 2012 10:55
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
Hello,

I didn't buy the MIR Pro yet, but I would like to. But I'm not sure, how to load more than 16 instruments with different positions, from the VE Pro 5 as Audio Unit plug-in (from Logic or Digital Performer). I read this thread about more than 16 channels in the AU plug-ins. I solved this problem the same way – use more VE Pro instances. But I'm not sure, how will this work with the MIR Pro? How can I send MIDI data to all 32 or 50 channels of Herb's Teldex Presets from AU host, please?

Thanks,

Martin
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Posted on Wed, Jan 04 2012 11:02
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1762

1. You can use the Event Input plugin to get more than 16 channels into one AU plugin.

2. The next release of VEPro (in a few days) contains a workaround for multiple midi ports for one AU plugin in Logic.

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Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Wed, Jan 04 2012 13:18
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
Great!

Will the 2nd option work with Login only? Or will this work with any AU hosts (for example Digital Performer too), please?
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Posted on Wed, Jan 04 2012 14:04
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1762

Only Logic, since it uses the Logic environment.

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Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Wed, Jan 04 2012 16:41
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
I see. I will wait, thanks!
Martin
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Mac Pro 8-core; 16GB RAM
Logic 9 or Digital Performer 7
SE&SE+; Orchestral Strings I + Extended; Woodwinds I; Vienna Choir I + Extended
VSL Suite; VSL VEPro 5 & MIR Pro
Posted on Wed, Jan 04 2012 18:37
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
One more question about this: How it will work with CPU cores? One Channel strip is computed on separately core in the Logic. So if I will úsek only one VE5 instance, Logic will compute all instruments on one core only?
If I will use outputs from MIR and VE back to Logic, and make effect processors in the Logic, than the Logic will compute these effects on different cores. But whole VE (and all instruments) will compute on one core only, right?
Or do you have some solution fór this? Is it possible to use more CPU cores this way?
Thanks a lot! I'm very hungry to MIR - more and more. :-)
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www.majstudio.com
Mac Pro 8-core; 16GB RAM
Logic 9 or Digital Performer 7
SE&SE+; Orchestral Strings I + Extended; Woodwinds I; Vienna Choir I + Extended
VSL Suite; VSL VEPro 5 & MIR Pro
Posted on Wed, Jan 04 2012 19:44
by MS
Joined on Wed, Feb 19 2003, Vienna, Austria, Posts 1762

1. Logic will compute any mixing derived from this instance on one core.

2. Processing of the instruments (and MIR) is multithreaded by VEPro itself.

3. Effect processing in Logic, which derives from a single channel (or its auxes), will occur on one core. It is a major downside of Logic, it's multithreading implementation is not the best.

4. The VEPro processing, including instruments and MIR, is likely to be the heaviest workload. Mixing after this, should be handled fine by a single core.

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Martin Saleteg
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Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Posted on Wed, Jan 04 2012 21:37
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
Thank you very much!

But. I'm not sure, I can undestand this well.


So if I will use Logic as MIDI sequencer only (no audio, no internal AU instruments, no internal FX), and send all MIDI data to the VEPro, Logic will compute just this. So it shouldn't be so many information, and it should be OK for 1 core. So Logic will display, it work just one core, right? But VEPro will compute all virtual instruments by multithreaded itslef, so the VEPro will use other cores. Although Logic will display it work just 1 core, the computer will use more (maybye all) cores, thanks to the VEPro, right?


So I don't have to be afraid, I'm using just one core, if I have 8 cores, and I don't have to be afraid, my CPU will be slow. Logic will compute just sending MIDI data to the VEPro plug-in.


I think, I have to download DEMO version of MIR Pro, and try it with Logic myself. :-)

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www.majstudio.com
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SE&SE+; Orchestral Strings I + Extended; Woodwinds I; Vienna Choir I + Extended
VSL Suite; VSL VEPro 5 & MIR Pro
Posted on Thu, Jan 05 2012 17:08
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
You are right. It just works, and it's quite intuitive.
Great work, thanks!
Martin
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www.majstudio.com
Mac Pro 8-core; 16GB RAM
Logic 9 or Digital Performer 7
SE&SE+; Orchestral Strings I + Extended; Woodwinds I; Vienna Choir I + Extended
VSL Suite; VSL VEPro 5 & MIR Pro
Posted on Tue, Jan 17 2012 21:15
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
Hello Martin,

Can you indicate little bit, how it will work? I have very big problems with synchronization, if I'm using 32 MIDI channels, VEPro Event Input and I/O plug-in. It just doesn't work in sync, now.

And can you tell the release date, please?

Best,

Martin
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www.majstudio.com
Mac Pro 8-core; 16GB RAM
Logic 9 or Digital Performer 7
SE&SE+; Orchestral Strings I + Extended; Woodwinds I; Vienna Choir I + Extended
VSL Suite; VSL VEPro 5 & MIR Pro
Posted on Mon, Jan 23 2012 13:56
by MAJ
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2009, Posts 33
Thi is it! Thanks!
Martin
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SE&SE+; Orchestral Strings I + Extended; Woodwinds I; Vienna Choir I + Extended
VSL Suite; VSL VEPro 5 & MIR Pro
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