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  • Which computer would be best for slave MAc or PC?

    I'm planning to buy a slve computer and I'm trying to decide if to but a Mac Pro 8 or 12 core with SSD x 4 raid or a costumoze PC with the lates Intel 7i 6 core processor, which system would give me the best performance for the Price. I already own  a 2.93Ghz 8 core 24Gig RAM(for ProTools and slave) and a 2,26Ghz 8 core,12 Gig RAM for Logic Pro and DP.Some advice would be greatly appreciated.


  • with my Macpro 12 core (see after) I can run a 99 instrument template with MIR and this using 60 % cpu

    I dont use my 8 core


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • Best performance for the price is the PC, hands down. The Core-i7 3930K should be the sweetspot for price/performance right now. It will enable you to build an extremely capable system with 32GB ram (excluding drives) for around 1000 eur. With a couple of SSD's added I don't know if you would ever run into the CPU limit.

    Windows 7 is also better performing than OSX for audio applications.


  • Thank you for your replies. Right now I'm looking at custom PC with Intel Xeon 2.4 Ghz(Westmer) 12 core with 48 gigs of RAM 5 WD Raptor 300(OS) and 600Gigs with either 4 of them in a Raid 0 or 2 Raids with 2 WD Raptors in each Raid 0. I was going for the bigger Intel which is a 3.46Ghz(Westmere) 12 Core but don't you think is better to save the extra $3,700 extra and spend it on fast drives and more RAM? I can still use part of my MacPro 2.93Ghz 8 core which also runs ProTools 9 4HD if I need to load more instead of loading tons of stuff which is what I'm doing now. Plus I can also load some more on my Mac Pro 2.26Ghz 8 core which runs Logic Pro 9. I want the PC to handle most of my sample libraries and use the other ones just in case I need load more stuff.


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    I'd still pick one 6-core 3930K or 3960X if you can spare the cash. The architecture is newer, I believe it would perform about the same as a 12-core "older" Westmere system for heavily multithreaded apps, but would be much faster for single threaded work. Total system price would be much lower, and it would still support 64GB ram with a 300 usd-ish motherboard. Spend the saved cash on some SSD drives.

    You could have a look at this page for benchmarks between the two CPUs. As you can see, the Xeon you are considering is about half as fast as the 3930K.

    Base system components:

    3930K CPU: 544 eur

    Intel DX79SI MB: 254 eur

    8x8GB RAM: 450 eur.

    Total: 1248 eur

    Should leave some spare cash for SSDs 😊


  • Following up on this, I have to say that picking a Sandy Bridge architecture CPU over a Nehalem variant, might yield a huge performance increase for MIR Pro, since Sandy Bridge supports AVX, which is utilized by MIR Pro (on Windows).


  • What is the status on MIR PRO in a multi PC/MAC environment, I thought it was not possible or that you require two MIR licenses

    see also my post about migrating my strings as VI pro in Logic 

    best

    cyril


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • MIR Pro comes with one license. If you want to use it on more than one machine, you need to buy more licenses.


  • Dear Martin Saleteg, You've mentioned a powerful PC around 1000 Euro (Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 6-core or similar). Do you have any website/company that you recommend. The ones I found around 3000 Euro. Thanks

  • I think everyone on the Windows side assumes you're building it yourself. But, a hex core, pretty sure that's the cost of the CHIP...there's a single 6 core intel that's about $500usd...the rest are closer to $1k....just chip costs. 


  • The Intel Xeon processors used in the latest Macpro 2x6 core  are at  1300 $ each, so it is 2300 $ just for the processors, you wonder why Intel is rich


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
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    @Gubik said:

    Dear Martin Saleteg, You've mentioned a powerful PC around 1000 Euro (Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 6-core or similar). Do you have any website/company that you recommend. The ones I found around 3000 Euro. Thanks

    I never meant a complete system, but rather a system base. This would include CPU 3930K (550 EUR), Motherboard (250 EUR) and memory (200 EUR). Then you would of course need a case, harddrive(s), graphic card etc. But for 1500 you should have the whole kit with quality components.

    I am always building the computers myself, so I cannot recommend any builder for you.


  • dont forget Window 7, this is a big price !


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • 120 EUR.


  • OK! I understand know. Could anyone tell me trustable/cheap brands for 64GB Ram kit (8x8)? Also I believe popular Intel® Coreâ„¢ i7-3930K Processor (12M Cache, 3.20 GHz) is on 2 months waiting list at the moment.

  • Dont buy cheap memory, buy waranted memory

    I use Crucial ssd and memory


    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • Martin, as a long time user of VSL with a Mac, I am finally getting to the point (having purchased MIR PRO) of thinking of a change to PC. Would you be able to give me the name of a company who could build a pc for me with the latest top level specs (such as you described) designed to work with VSL and music? I am afraid that I have neither the ability or wish to attempt to build it myself.

    Best wishes, Roy


  • Sorry, I don't have any personal experience with any DAW builders myself. I suppose these are usually local companies. Perhaps someone else might chime in?


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  • Can anyone confirm that G.Skill RipJawsZ DIMM Kit 64GB PC3-10667U (http://geizhals.at/de/706321) is compatible with Intel DX79SI Motherboard. Thanks