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Hanging notes with Vepro Multiport Layer Fixed
Last post Mon, Jun 25 2012 by Cyril Blanc, 50 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Feb 09 2012 09:05
by woy
Joined on Sun, Oct 31 2004, Monaco, Posts 44

Dear Karel, I use MIR with VEP and only for VIPro instruments. I have noiced a significant drop in volume when MIR is instantiated. I noticed this every time and checked it against the excellent template that Beat Kauffman recently made available. My Logic buffer at 500 is the only one which seems to work with VEP and MIR on a single Mac Pro 32GIG ram. When using Herb's Teledex template, the multiport does work but it seems to put too much strain on the one software instrument used. Would there be any way to have one sound stage with all the instruments on it but going through a couple of linked instruments with also Logic Events? I do realise that ths is mainly caused by the shortcomings in Logic. Finally, a short word of praise to VSL which in my view is a really great team doing great things. Thanks, Roy

Posted on Thu, Feb 09 2012 11:00
by molemac_824
Joined on Fri, Jan 31 2003, London, Posts 87

Good news . The VSL team have solved the hanging note issue . I have tested the multi port layer  out on a new build of vepro 5.

I ran a template with 14 vep midi ports active and 50 midi instruments playing simultaneously on 3 ve servers , 2 on the host computer (1 32 bit and 1 64) , and one 64 on the slave. Even with both computers maxed out cpu wise with so much activity I did not get a single stuck note.Obviously they need to run further tests before releasing it but so far so good.Fantastic support.
Charlie
Posted on Fri, Feb 10 2012 14:58
by kosi.me
Joined on Fri, Jan 10 2003, Posts 19

Oh yes please, 

I have the same problem on my slave pc and it really drives me crazy.

Posted on Wed, Feb 15 2012 18:12
by jaumepardalito
Joined on Thu, Mar 22 2007, Mallorca, Spain, Posts 46

Any news????

Mac Pro 2,66 (First generation), 16GB Ram, SSD120GB. Snow Leopard
Mac Pro 3,1 (First generation), 16GB Ram, OSX Lion
VEpro4, Vienna Instruments Pro, SE & SE+ Full, Woodwinds I full, Download Instruments: Piccolo, English Horn full, Clarinet Bass.
Kontakt 5: Lass, Hollywood Brass, cinesamples stuff,...
Posted on Thu, Feb 16 2012 13:53
by marcotronic
Joined on Mon, Mar 07 2011, Germany, Posts 39
jaumepardalito wrote:

Any news????

Yes, please! I'm having the same problem. Can't work any longer with VE Pro 5 at the moment due to that hanging notes prob. Need a fix real soon!

Thanks
Marco 

Marco Neumann - www.marcotronic.com
Posted on Thu, Feb 16 2012 22:35
by J111111
Joined on Fri, Jul 09 2010, Posts 72
molemac_824 wrote:
Good news 

Is this fix in the new version 5.0.10068??   B/c I'm still getting it every once in a while.  But when it hangs on a note, all i have to do is play that note again and it stops.. annoying.. but workable.

Curious to see if there's a *newer* version that's about to be out.

Thanks!

Posted on Thu, Feb 16 2012 23:50
by molemac_824
Joined on Fri, Jan 31 2003, London, Posts 87

No , the fix hasn't been officially released yet  but the good news is that it seems to work .

Charlie
Posted on Fri, Feb 17 2012 01:47
by C_Caouette
Joined on Thu, Mar 11 2004, Posts 173

To be quite honest although I think the VSL team is doing a great job with coming up with a work around I still have found that using one instance per instrument (articulations are on different channels) has been the best solution for me.  There are some specific features I use in Logic that the other methods can't utilize.  If I always had the same template open then I would have a different opinion.

Chris

Posted on Fri, Feb 17 2012 08:30
by molemac_824
Joined on Fri, Jan 31 2003, London, Posts 87

I agree except there are a few advantages to having it all in one place . Logic will run smoother not being attached to loads of Vienna instruments , as will vepro itself. You don't have to wait for logic to attach all the different  vepro instruments when changing projects . But the main one which is why this is all happening is because of the ability to have your whole sample library on one instance of vepro thereby being able to mix everything outside of logic in Mir Pro . You can open Mir pro and see the whole band or orchestra in one place and adjust the levels and reverb levels pretty much visually. Then if you have a smaller project and you want a more intimate sound , all you have to do is change the room and adjust the master reverb levels . It seems to make sense to start big with everything if you ever need it and then adapt it for smaller projects.then all you are doing is saving one viframe per job which also makes life easier. 

Further simplicity and uniformity is provided by being able to also send any logic instruments or audio to that one instance of Mir via input plugin so everyone is in the same space.

What I am doing is buying a Pc to run vepro and Mir pro and logic on the IMac. The pc I am building is an i7 intel 3960k 6 core with 32 gb ram , this only costs about£1300 , while not as powerful as the £4000 12 core macpros , should still be a very powerful solution .

Ps can I get a job at vsl ?

Charlie

Charlie
Posted on Fri, Feb 17 2012 11:33
by C_Caouette
Joined on Thu, Mar 11 2004, Posts 173
molemac_824 wrote:

I agree except there are a few advantages to having it all in one place . Logic will run smoother not being attached to loads of Vienna instruments , as will vepro itself. You don't have to wait for logic to attach all the different  vepro instruments when changing projects . But the main one which is why this is all happening is because of the ability to have your whole sample library on one instance of vepro thereby being able to mix everything outside of logic in Mir Pro . You can open Mir pro and see the whole band or orchestra in one place and adjust the levels and reverb levels pretty much visually. 

Well I know but actually I have seen zero difference running multiple instances vs one as fas as Logic's concerned.  The PC also doesn't seem to care nor does the mac mini.  As for connection times that's a good point but why does the PC slave seem to take so long yet the MacMini slave connects faster than I can blink?  (Another reason I am not a PC fan).   Also of course if you are using MirPro you go the one instance route but I am not using any VSL in this setup, just PLAY on the PC and Brass for now in Kontakt on the Mini.  Any VSL is done inside Logic and is just a channel strip preset away. Smile.

Chris

Posted on Fri, Feb 17 2012 14:33
by Ashermusic
Joined on Fri, Jan 02 2009, Posts 563

I am doing pretty much the same as you Chris with Play in VE Pro on my PC and Kontakt in VE Pro on my Mac and for me  Logic does seem to be laboring less with connecting to just the two instances.

Composer, Logic Pro Certified Trainer, author of "Jumpstart Logic Pro 10.6 " & "Scoring WIth Logic Pro"
www.jayasher.com

Mac Studio Max, 32 GB RAM. macOS 13.2.1
Posted on Fri, Feb 17 2012 16:17
by C_Caouette
Joined on Thu, Mar 11 2004, Posts 173
Ashermusic wrote:

I am doing pretty much the same as you Chris with Play in VE Pro on my PC and Kontakt in VE Pro on my Mac and for me  Logic does seem to be laboring less with connecting to just the two instances.

When you did the test did you reduce the # of audio streams per instance?  Also, I have not found an elegant way to import any of the new setup data into another project...it becomes a mess but I have tried some work arounds.  Don't get me wrong though I did like the design of the new method and would love to be able to try it again but the hanging notes are a show stopper at the moment.

Chris

Posted on Fri, Feb 17 2012 22:17
by C_Caouette
Joined on Thu, Mar 11 2004, Posts 173

Jay,

I didn't realize you ran an instance on the MAC side too.  Yes I agree with you there that when running it along side Logic one instance is best.  For now maybe I should just revert to the original method with even inputs till it gets fixed...which I hope is released in a couple of days becuase I need to build a new template!

Posted on Sun, Feb 19 2012 10:29
by jaumepardalito
Joined on Thu, Mar 22 2007, Mallorca, Spain, Posts 46

It's really sad to me. 2 or 3 months since payed for VEP5 with its big announced logic multi port... and what's what we get? doing and redoing and redoing again our templates. (So many hours and days!!!)


I think VSL are great team, but in this situation I'm defrauded. It goes for a long time since they release VEP5 and still can't work with Logic. Seriously thinking in migrates to Cubase, but, I wouldn't buy VEP5.


PLEASE, A SOLUTION!


Jaume

Used to be a composer

Actually VEP Tester


(Sorry for my English)

Mac Pro 2,66 (First generation), 16GB Ram, SSD120GB. Snow Leopard
Mac Pro 3,1 (First generation), 16GB Ram, OSX Lion
VEpro4, Vienna Instruments Pro, SE & SE+ Full, Woodwinds I full, Download Instruments: Piccolo, English Horn full, Clarinet Bass.
Kontakt 5: Lass, Hollywood Brass, cinesamples stuff,...
Posted on Sun, Feb 19 2012 11:49
by molemac_824
Joined on Fri, Jan 31 2003, London, Posts 87

I feel your pain . I am not sure why they are not releasing the new build yet. I suppose they want to make sure the issue is fixed completely . Everyone has a different setup and way of working so nothing is guaranteed . All I know is that the new build works for me , hanging notes have gone . 

Why don't you send vsl an email and ask them to send you a link to the new latest build .

Charlie
Posted on Mon, Feb 20 2012 14:13
by C_Caouette
Joined on Thu, Mar 11 2004, Posts 173

I've come up with a way to better import and organize the layer and now I could really use the fixed one...new project coming up that needs a new master template. Smile

Chris

Posted on Mon, Feb 27 2012 20:02
by reeltracks
Joined on Fri, May 28 2010, Posts 10
any news on the update? the hanging notes are driving me crazy
Mac OSX 10.6.8
Logic 9.1.5
VEP v5.0.9687
Posted on Thu, Mar 01 2012 13:55
by reeltracks
Joined on Fri, May 28 2010, Posts 10
has this been fixed?
Mac OSX 10.6.8
Logic 9.1.5
VEP v5.0.9687
Posted on Thu, Mar 01 2012 14:15
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 13896

Hello reeltracks, 

Unfortunately Karel got sick, so the next build has been slightly postponed. 

Our current beta seems to have improved this bug considerably, so we´re hoping that an official version is not too far away. 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Mar 02 2012 13:24
by reeltracks
Joined on Fri, May 28 2010, Posts 10
Thanks for letting me know. looking forward to the new update
Mac OSX 10.6.8
Logic 9.1.5
VEP v5.0.9687
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