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  • Bb Clarinet Sustain and Decrescendo

    I noticed that sometimes the sustained notes with the legato patch have a nice release, and times the just sustain right to the end of the note and cut off abruptly. I'm not sure how to control this, but I would really like to be able to. Also, I notice that notes aren't very responsive to velocity, they kind of abruptly shift at certain points (from one patch to the other, sounds like)...Is there a way I can make it so velocity just governs "loudness", and does not change the patch? Or really just a way to make things smoother as I increase and decrease velocity? I'm not well acquainted with the basic approaches so I may have missed something obvious. Thanks, Pat

  • I use both velocity xfade and expression to smoothen note ends. When velocity xfade (cc2 breath) is at minimum and that is not enough, I continue the diminuendo using expression (cc11). 


  • Hey thanks for the reply. What do you mean by "expression", is that like patch type? What are cc2 breath and cc11? I guess i need a primer...

  • Depending on the velocity level, a different velocity layer will sound (the manual discusses the number of velocity layers in each patch).

    Expression, cc11 varies the overall sound level of any given note, with no change in the velocity layer.

    If needing a crescendo on a longer held note, it is highly advised to use one of the dynamics patches.  With VI Pro 2, different portions of the sample can be adjusted (stretch mode), and additional times can be created.  Depending on the instrument/patch velocity x-fade may work well, but in some cases - solo instruments in particular, phasing is more evident.

    Depending on how detailed you are looking to get, all four of the methods may be necessary: dynamic patches; cc7; cc11; and velocity x-fade.

    On another thread, the question was asked about how to do get good expressive musical lines, and do high quality mock-ups.  Beat gave a marvelous answer: millions of computer edits.  The more detail desired in your results, the more detailed computer edits required.