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  • Maximum amount of audio outs from VEP5 to Logic with a single Vframe?

    Thanks to the event input and the Logic template you can use a single vframe.

    This is a huge bonus when using MIR to mix instruments.

    No matter what I set the VEP5 prefrences to the maximum amount of audio outs I can achive is 32.

    This translates to 16 independent stereo audio returns into Logic.

    Has anyone been able to get more audio outs with a single vFrame, or is this a technical limitation within Logic.

    My friend uses DP and it seems to be able to have as many audio channels as you set in the prefrences.


  • This is indeed a limitation in Logic unfortunately.


  • You do not need 16 tracks send back to Logic as MIR is the final stage, so you need either a stereo, a 5.1 or a 7.1 return to Logic


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  • I see your point Cyril, but I need as many audio outs as possible to be able to print stems.


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    @frazz said:

    I see your point Cyril, but I need as many audio outs as possible to be able to print stems.

    Print stems ?

    What is the relation between Stems and Audio tracks ?


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  • To achieve separation for different instrument types to be sent to a dubbing stage.


  • So you dont need MIR !

    May be I am wrong but I see it like this :

    Either you use MIR to spacialize your music and you give the 2 or 6 or 8 tracks to the dubbing

    Or you give all your tracks to be mixed and spacialized with the dubbing


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    @Cyril said:

    So you dont need MIR !

    [...]

    Uh .... excusez-moi, Monsieur??

    Why do you think you ain't allowed work in stems with MIR Pro?

    Wondering,


    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Cyril said:

    So you dont need MIR !

    [...]

    Uh .... excusez-moi, Monsieur??

    Why do you think you ain't allowed work in stems with MIR Pro?

    Wondering,

    i did say :

    > May be I am wrong but I see it like this :

    Once you have the 2 to 8 tracks of the music out of MIR (stereo, 5.1 or 7.1)

    You add the 2 to 8 tracks of voices and the 2 to 8 tracks of the sound effects

    Then you mix it all !

    For me it seems to be a non sence of having 40 or 90 track with MIR and to mix it all again, you are going to destroy all MIR's work !!!

    Again I say : may be I am wrong !!!!!


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  • Cyril, unfortunately your way may be a good way to work, but it doesn't cut it in most situations composers find themselves in these days. When the stems go to the dub, the mix should sound the same as if all were printed at the same time directly out of MIR. However, you can't do this, because it means that nothing can be changed if the film is re-cut, for example. These days we are expected to give the music editor options, and not providing stems is not an option for most people.

    Having said that, I wouldn't provide more than 6 or 7 stems, but if each of these was a 5.1 configuration, that would saturate Logic's ability to cope really quickly.

    However, as we don't have to worry about mic bleed or anything using MIR, it should not be a problem to create stems. All you have to watch for is that there is no processing on your Master buss in your project. All processing has to be done on the stem busses before printing.

    DG


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    @DG said:

    nothing can be changed if the film is re-cut, for example. 

    If the film has to be re-cut, doing it at the audio level, can only work if you are cutting on a silence !

    It is better to do it at the Midi level

    Cyril


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    @DG said:

    nothing can be changed if the film is re-cut, for example. 

    If the film has to be re-cut, doing it at the audio level, can only work if you are cutting on a silence !

    It is better to do it at the Midi level

    Cyril

     

     If you get the chance. In the professional arena this doesn't happen very often.

    DG


  • Karel, Is having more Audio Outputs selected in Preferences than you are currently using a waste of computer resources?

  • I'm replying to an old post here, because I couldn't find another thread on the subject : is there a limit on the number of audio outputs per vframe ? I have 80 here which seem to work fine, couldn't find mention of a maximum in the PDF manual.

    Thanks.