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Is Vienna Ensemble Pro a good idea?
Last post Sat, Jul 14 2012 by padams, 10 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Jul 10 2012 09:35
by padams
Joined on Thu, Nov 18 2004, Posts 17

Forever waiting for Apple to release the much anticipated proper Mac Pro Upgrade - I'm thinking this might be a solution for the medium term future. Is anybody using it in earnest? Is it working for you?

Regards

Philip

Posted on Tue, Jul 10 2012 18:02
by Mike B Studios
Joined on Thu, Feb 16 2012, Hollywood, CA, Posts 410

Vienna Ensemble Pro 5?

The real challenge around here is finding someone who isn't using it in earnest.

Try it..... and you'll understand.

P/S: You'll continue using it even after getting that "Proper Mac Pro Upgrade."

Posted on Tue, Jul 10 2012 19:23
by Tom23
Joined on Mon, Feb 26 2007, Miller, Posts 119

Whoops--you've done the former, I'm afraid to admit.  I have Ens 4 loaded on my MacPro but don't use it.  I'm sure it's great, but since I'm not using a slave computer I didn't want to take the time to figure it out.  (aux tracks for automation, if using Logic Pro?  Is that still in effect?  I just want to click automation onto a track and go.)

I finally broke down and ordered a "new" MacPro 6 core.  Will load Ens 5 onto (Mir for me finally) and use my 06 Mac Pro as a slave.  

I suspect the advantages of Ens 4 probably outweighed the disadvantages, but to the unaguainted it just seemed like another layer on the onion, and I got along fine without it.        Cheers,  Tom

Posted on Wed, Jul 11 2012 01:15
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2686

it is better to use the most powerfull Mac as a slave, specially with MIR PRO

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Wed, Jul 11 2012 18:48
by Tom23
Joined on Mon, Feb 26 2007, Miller, Posts 119

Really?  Why is that?  

Also, I'm already struggling with the notion of having to relearn all my procedures if I want to use MIR.  I just read a 30 something page tutorial on how to set up Ensemble Orchestral Templates when using Logic Pro 9 and my head is spinning with the number of confusing steps and workarounds, just to do what I already do using Logic Pro and no Ensemble.  Right now, as someone whose not particularly technically adept, I keep asking myself-- what's the point of Ens 5, besides running MIR and connecting slave computers, I don't see the need for it.  

I've watched the tutorials.  Still feel like there's something I'm not getting...  Ah well.  Once I've got the new MacPro and have it all running, I suppose my reservations will diminish.

Posted on Wed, Jul 11 2012 19:47
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2686

Logic is using very little CPU resources, VEP with MIR PRO in 5.1 or 7.1 is a CPU exterminator

This why you put Logic on the less powerfull computer and VEP on the most powerfull

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Wed, Jul 11 2012 19:57
by Tom23
Joined on Mon, Feb 26 2007, Miller, Posts 119

Thanks, Cyril.  Will keep that in mind.             Tom

Posted on Thu, Jul 12 2012 03:00
by mr-es335
Joined on Tue, Oct 11 2011, Maple Ridge, BC Canada, Posts 10

 Hello,

Use it...love it...can not imagine working without it.

Have never had a problem, using a PC with XP-64bit. Very, very stable indeed!

Hope this helps?

mr_es335
Posted on Thu, Jul 12 2012 08:48
by pianosound
Joined on Fri, Oct 02 2009, Posts 41
VEP 5 allows me to use more of my ram. Until PT's comes out with a 64 bit upgrade we're fairly well limited. Love VEP 5,,, great program!! Mike
PT's 003r, 10/11 | Win 7 64 bit | i7 920 | 12 gigs ram | VeP, VIP, Solo Strings | Waves Platinum | Ivory 2 |
Posted on Sat, Jul 14 2012 09:34
by padams
Joined on Thu, Nov 18 2004, Posts 17

Thank you everyone for your valued comments.

From what I have seen and read it offers great advantage but it looks a bit of a faff setting up all those returns in Logic though.

Hits and tips with logic appreciated!

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