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Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 07:20
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
iscorefilm wrote:

At first glance of the 'Interview with Herb' I read the bit about a Violin II section and though "ARE YOU NUTS!?!?" However, As sad as as it was to read that, I figure the Chamber Violin section of 6 players is more than adequate so long as it blends well (which I imagine it will knowing the quality of everything VSL produces).

 

I think that the point is that as you can easily ensure that the 1st and 2nd Violins don't sound the same, so there won't be the same issue that there were with previous Violin products. I'm planning on putting my Chamber Strings into semi-retirement...!

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
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48GB RAM
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Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 08:07
by noldar12
Joined on Thu, Dec 04 2008, Posts 582

DG, I would comment about the very ancient, and long since non-viable GOS strings library that did allow for setting one's own bow changes.  With it being available in that very old, outdated library, one would think that just maybe...

But, I won't go there. <smile>

As others have commented, I too would really like to know how long the advance purchase period will last, as it will likely be a couple months before I could make that purchase, and DS looks like it would be very helpful.

Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 08:41
by woy
Joined on Sun, Oct 31 2004, Monaco, Posts 42
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 08:47
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
garylionelli wrote:

Bump on this slow download issue. Now it's saying 3 days. Can you provide an alternate link? Thanks.

 

 I've managed 1% so far and I'm getting around 170kb/s so I guess that mine will take a couple of days as well.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 08:51
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
noldar12 wrote:

DG, I would comment about the very ancient, and long since non-viable GOS strings library that did allow for setting one's own bow changes.  With it being available in that very old, outdated library, one would think that just maybe...

But, I won't go there. <smile>

 

 I didn't know that. Was it any good?

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 09:59
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12890

Hello everybody, 

Just a quick update: We´re currently working with high pressure on improving the download performance for you!

We´re actually quite overwhelmed by the great response to the Dimension Violins Smile 

Thanks for your patience and understanding (We know it´s hard to wait for the download to finish, but it will be worth it!) 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 11:32
by muziksculp
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, U.S.A., Posts 442

Will Dimension Strings  be eventually added to the content of the Vienna Hard Drive in the future ? 

If Yes, that would be great. 

I'm guessing this will be added to the current content of the Vienna HD, when the entire Dimension Strings is completed next year. 

Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 14:54
by nicks
Joined on Sun, Jan 05 2003, Posts 184

Dear Herb and Team,

Can you please confirm that once the Dimension Strings is finished, Early Bird purchasers will receive a boxed version of the software?

Kind Regards,

Nick.

Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 15:20
by garylionelli
Joined on Wed, Jul 09 2003, Los Angeles, Posts 386

Thanks Paul, appreciate whatever you can do. (And just to explain, it's not that we're impatient, but rather that this download stream is vey slow compared to other vendors' libraries that I've downloaded, and I'd rather not have the computer tied up for 3 or 4 days just to download this when other similarly sized libraries have downloaded in 3 or 4 hours.)

Pro Tools Ultimate, Avid MTRX, Mac Pro 3.5 Ghz 6-Core (2014) 64 GB RAM, Mac OS Mojave, Samsung T5 SSDs
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 15:38
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

I'm now at 12% and have 3 days to go.  Big Smile

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 16:07
by mushanga
Joined on Sun, Sep 17 2006, Posts 188
nicks wrote:

Dear Herb and Team,

Can you please confirm that once the Dimension Strings is finished, Early Bird purchasers will receive a boxed version of the software?

Kind Regards,

Nick.

Hi Nick,

That is unlikely to happen, since VSL moved all their collections to download-only......!

Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 16:10
by FredB
Joined on Sat, Apr 01 2006, Montreal, Posts 669

I've been playing with the Dim Violins for a day now, been lucky enough to grab it in only 15 hours on the first day.

God! This library is really impressive.

It's 61 GB after decompression. I recommand using fast drives, SSD or multiple drives, it's a lot of samples to stream.

I've been able to create a second section using MIR positionning. I just duplicate the first 8 violins and positionned the players differently. Dose'nt have phasing issues, not that I could clearly hear. But using different string position (Forcing Sul G,D,A,E) would be even better. It's amazing how a musical phrase can sound different played on other strings and the portamento created when using Force G and others are so musical.

Using the time humanization for short notes like pizz works really well.

This is not a sketchpad for composing, it's really for a final production and extreme tweakability.

It worth the wait.

Fred

Master: Imac I7 32Gb Late 2013 - - OsX 10.13.6
Slave: Corei7 6800k 64gb - Win 10
Soft: Logic X 10.4.4 - ProTools 12.x - VE Pro 6 - VI Pro 2 - MIR
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 16:40
by markbatuer
Joined on Tue, Nov 15 2011, Posts 22
FredB wrote:

I've been playing with the Dim Violins for a day now, been lucky enough to grab it in only 15 hours on the first day.

God! This library is really impressive.

It's 61 GB after decompression. I recommand using fast drives, SSD or multiple drives, it's a lot of samples to stream.

I've been able to create a second section using MIR positionning. I just duplicate the first 8 violins and positionned the players differently. Dose'nt have phasing issues, not that I could clearly hear. But using different string position (Forcing Sul G,D,A,E) would be even better. It's amazing how a musical phrase can sound different played on other strings and the portamento created when using Force G and others are so musical.

Using the time humanization for short notes like pizz works really well.

This is not a sketchpad for composing, it's really for a final production and extreme tweakability.

It worth the wait.



Hi FredB, could you make some short demo for listening? Especially 8 players ensemble and some with 2nd violin. Thanks.
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 16:43
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5640

This is really exciting.  The sound is awesome - total realism.   The Dimension approach is another innovation by VSL that is simply revolutionary.  I think the size of these ensembles is perfect since the complexity of string timbre actually INCREASES with a smaller ensemble.   This is just the right compromise between largeness of sound and transparency.  Also, as mentioned in the info, the older libraries can all be combined in various layering approaches for an even greater number of possibilities. 

O.K., I'm forcing myself not to check this download any more today - well, at least not this hour...

Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 16:50
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5640

 One other thing.  People have regularly been layerng Appassionata with solo for the added complexity and expression.  Just think about this combined with Appassionata!   AND solo....   SurpriseStick out tongueBig SmileGeekedYes

Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 16:53
by FredB
Joined on Sat, Apr 01 2006, Montreal, Posts 669
markbatuer wrote:
Hi FredB, could you make some short demo for listening? Especially 8 players ensemble and some with 2nd violin. Thanks

Unfortunatly, I can't for the moment. I'm busy on a (non-orchestral) project for the next 2 days and the setup I use now is too different. But it will be a pleasure to do it after that if nobody else have done it.

Fred

Master: Imac I7 32Gb Late 2013 - - OsX 10.13.6
Slave: Corei7 6800k 64gb - Win 10
Soft: Logic X 10.4.4 - ProTools 12.x - VE Pro 6 - VI Pro 2 - MIR
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 18:00
by markbatuer
Joined on Tue, Nov 15 2011, Posts 22
FredB wrote:
markbatuer wrote:
Hi FredB, could you make some short demo for listening? Especially 8 players ensemble and some with 2nd violin. Thanks

Unfortunatly, I can't for the moment. I'm busy on a (non-orchestral) project for the next 2 days and the setup I use now is too different. But it will be a pleasure to do it after that if nobody else have done it.



Hi FredB that's OK.

How does the 8 violins ensemble sound? Some says this library sound a little thin. What do you think?

And based on it sounds, can it be used alone or should have to be layered with some other string library?
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 18:04
by zmusic
Joined on Mon, Dec 22 2003, New York, Posts 1

Thanks, Paul... any update on this yet?

I'm 24 hours in with what is typically a VERY fast connection, and am still only at 41%.

I've got a deadline for tomorrow on a project that's just begging for this library!  :-)

Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 18:06
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

15% for me....

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, Sep 19 2012 18:36
by FredB
Joined on Sat, Apr 01 2006, Montreal, Posts 669
markbatuer wrote:
Hi FredB that's OK.
How does the 8 violins ensemble sound? Some says this library sound a little thin. What do you think? And based on it sounds, can it be used alone or should have to be layered with some other string library?

All I can say is that it sounds like 8 players. I have done some recordings with 8 players before (4VL1, 4VL2,3VA,2VC,1CB) with overdubs, and with good programming I think it will sounds as good as that.

And keep in mind that this is just the Violin part of the collection, the thinnest section...

I  like this sound alone for many of my personnal project. but I presume it will blend well with other library, specialy those recorded by VSL and mixed inside MIR. But even without MIR it should do it.

Something else that have been improved is that the Vib/non-Vib crossfade is really better than older libraries. And the 4 layers velocity X-fade is smoother too.

Fred

Master: Imac I7 32Gb Late 2013 - - OsX 10.13.6
Slave: Corei7 6800k 64gb - Win 10
Soft: Logic X 10.4.4 - ProTools 12.x - VE Pro 6 - VI Pro 2 - MIR
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