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Posted on Sat, Oct 06 2012 20:26
by Miki Mart
Joined on Wed, Aug 10 2011, ROMA, Italy, Posts 68

Hi everybody,

I personally do not use Sibelius, but it appears that Avid is shutting down it...

A few days ago, the UK office was shut down.

I suppose this means no more updates and, with a new OS, Sibelius would cease working.

For more information: http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddi...he-lights.html

How sad...

"Hell is full of musical amateurs."

George Bernard Shaw
Posted on Sat, Oct 06 2012 22:44
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1061

With Finale also in tatters, Notion really leaving a great lot to be desired for proper symphonic scores, LilyPond cumbersome, and most every other company barely able to accomodate the confounding complexity of a Hans Zimmer cue, I tell you VSL, NOW's the time to get into the game.

Who else is going to absorb all those hundreds of thousands of desperate users?... Lots of moneyyyy!.... Don't forget. Maybe after Finale goes (that's not a wish), over a million users who DON'T compose on the piano roll (or by importing others' loops and Scorephobia cues) are going to scavenge for a professional, no half-arsed, notation solution. Be there first, and with the advantage of seamless VI-MIR integration you can really charge for the privilege. No House-Styles, no setting up. It will be so worth it!

[Just get a Mac developer who can help you with aesthetics, and only then translate for P.C.] Surprise

If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!

In these modern days to be vulgar, illiterate, common and vicious, seems to give a man a marvelous infinity of rights that his honest fathers never dreamed of. - Oscar Wilde
Posted on Sun, Oct 07 2012 00:54
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5513

 Is Finale doing poorly also?  I hadn't heard that. 

Posted on Sun, Oct 07 2012 03:34
by Mike B Studios
Joined on Thu, Feb 16 2012, Hollywood, CA, Posts 410
William wrote:

 Is Finale doing poorly also?  I hadn't heard that. 

Errikos is correct, Makemusic is in play.

While in a much sexier scenario than Sibelius, Makemusic has been hemorrhaging cash for a few years.

They do have a buyout offer on the table from a private equity firm.

The firm already owns 28% of Makemusic stock and has access to the books.

The question is, is the buyout a Venture or Vulture Capitol play.

If Venture, Finale could be around for many years.

If Vulture, Makemusic and Finale will eventually fail.

Posted on Sun, Oct 07 2012 15:21
by DaveTubaKing
Joined on Fri, Feb 27 2004, London, Posts 757

A new version of Sibelus has been confirmed by AVID for 2013. The new head of the development team is someone in the US. We'll see how that develops.

David Carter (DaveTubaKing) http://www.davetubaking.com

W10 Pro (64bit), Z390 Aorus Pro wifi MB, Intel i7-8700K s.7 GHz, Corsair 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3000MHz, Samsung 970 EVO M.2, 2 x OCZ Agility 3 480GB SSDs, Sibelius 8.4.1, Symphonic cube, VEPro6, MIRPro, Focustite Scarlett Solo, Nvidia GeForce GT 710 2GB GDDR5
Posted on Sun, Oct 07 2012 16:51
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1061

Where did you see that Dave? 2013 is quite soon for a new version, and it would be interesting to see whether AVID is serious about the software, or whether it's seeking to squeeze every last dollar drop out of already available development from the previous team.

If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!

In these modern days to be vulgar, illiterate, common and vicious, seems to give a man a marvelous infinity of rights that his honest fathers never dreamed of. - Oscar Wilde
Posted on Sun, Oct 07 2012 20:12
by DaveTubaKing
Joined on Fri, Feb 27 2004, London, Posts 757

From Daniel Spreadbury;

"Thanks for all the kind words, everybody. Just to clarify a concern
raised by Monty Beaumont early in this thread: although Sibelius 7.1.3
is the last update that will be produced by the original Sibelius
development team (or at least the four developers from that team who are
still with Avid at the time of writing), you don't need to worry that
this is the end of the road for Sibelius. Avid is in the process of
building a new development team that will be responsible for the future
development of the software, and the company has already publicly
committed to a new release of Sibelius next year. So you can look
forward to that.

As for me personally, I will be leaving at the end of October when
the last of my colleagues from the original team leave. After 13 and a
half years, I will be looking for a clean break, and I won't be posting
here any longer, or maintaining the Sibelius blog, after I go.


My friend and colleague Sam Butler, who is the leader of the
Sibelius technical support team here in Europe and who has been with us
for many years, will start to pop up more here on the forum over the
next few weeks and will maintain the company's presence here, so that
you can be sure that your posts will still be read by somebody from the
company (though like me he cannot commit to answering every single
thread). Those of you who have been lucky enough to speak to Sam on the
phone or have your emails answered by him will know that he is a true
expert with the software, and very friendly to boot.
"

David Carter (DaveTubaKing) http://www.davetubaking.com

W10 Pro (64bit), Z390 Aorus Pro wifi MB, Intel i7-8700K s.7 GHz, Corsair 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3000MHz, Samsung 970 EVO M.2, 2 x OCZ Agility 3 480GB SSDs, Sibelius 8.4.1, Symphonic cube, VEPro6, MIRPro, Focustite Scarlett Solo, Nvidia GeForce GT 710 2GB GDDR5
Posted on Sun, Oct 07 2012 20:30
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
DaveTubaKing wrote:

A new version of Sibelus has been confirmed by AVID for 2013. The new head of the development team is someone in the US. We'll see how that develops.

Unfortunately Booby Lombardi talks like a corporate mouthpiece, so I don't have high hopes that he is really up to the job. I hope to be proved wrong though.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Sat, Nov 10 2012 06:18
by cjthibeault
Joined on Fri, Mar 25 2011, Woonsocket, Rhode Island, Posts 33

It looks like several of the now former Sibelius folks, including Daniel, are now working for Steinberg. I wonder what this could mean?

http://www.steinberg.net/en/company/press/archive/2012/uk_rd_center.html

Posted on Thu, Dec 06 2012 20:18
by Chuck Green
Joined on Thu, Dec 21 2006, Ann Arbor, MI (USA), Posts 518

There's Hope.  Steinberg just announced the opening of a new R&D Center in London.  The announcement states that the new UK office team is a group of highly skilled developers and product specialist who will be focusing on developing software for the music notation and education markets.  If I had to guess......... 

Posted on Fri, Dec 07 2012 08:40
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

You don't have to guess. Steinberg has actually shown some sense, for once.  Big Smile

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Fri, Dec 07 2012 12:56
by Chuck Green
Joined on Thu, Dec 21 2006, Ann Arbor, MI (USA), Posts 518

I know, I was just saying.  When I read the announcement I thought yes, Avid has the code to Sibelius but that's just code.  It is the experienced development team that has the real value in my opinion.  That's something you just can't replace.  I believe great things are ahead for Steinberg in the area of scoring and education.

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