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C or Bb Trumpet?
Last post Sat, Nov 03 2012 by cjthibeault, 9 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Oct 29 2012 18:44
by cjthibeault
Joined on Fri, Mar 25 2011, Woonsocket, Rhode Island, Posts 33

Hello Everyone,

I am using Dimension Brass for ensemble parts, but I am looking for a solo trumpet. The obvious question is: C or Bb? And why?

I've listened to the audio demos, but if anybody has any examples of a a few identical lines being played by each of these trumpets, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks,

Chris

Posted on Mon, Oct 29 2012 22:08
by FredB
Joined on Sat, Apr 01 2006, Montreal, Posts 669

The Bb without hesitation.

I have both, the Bb trumpet have lot more wider expressive range even if it as less articulations. It as been sampled after the C trumpet, it as been made differently.

Fred

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Posted on Mon, Oct 29 2012 22:31
by Bill
Joined on Fri, Sep 23 2005, Berkshires, MA, Posts 970

Interesting.  Thank you for posting that.  The C seems to be the "standard", so that's what I got.  Will put the Bb on my list.

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Posted on Tue, Oct 30 2012 04:11
by Marko
Joined on Mon, Dec 01 2003, Posts 184

Here's a duet featuring just the two trumpets: the Bb and the C.

Posted on Wed, Oct 31 2012 17:37
by winknotes_282
Joined on Mon, Dec 23 2002, Posts 189

Are you asking in terms of real-life choices or according to the samples you own?  I assume the latter but thought I'd ask.

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Posted on Wed, Oct 31 2012 17:53
by cjthibeault
Joined on Fri, Mar 25 2011, Woonsocket, Rhode Island, Posts 33

Thank you to all who replied. I ended up purchasing the B-flat trumpet. 

Virtually everything that I am using is VSL now. I have the Dimension Brass, and the C Trumpet from the special edition just didn't do anything for me, and so I wanted to get a good standalone trumpet. 

Being that I'm a full-time grad student in an area other than music, I won't get to play with many of my new toys until some time in January. Still, I'm looking forward to making good use of my recent purchases :)

Posted on Wed, Oct 31 2012 22:18
by Casiquire
Joined on Sat, May 01 2010, Posts 325
Hmm, interesting you say that, does Dimension Brass not work well for solo trumpet lines?
Posted on Fri, Nov 02 2012 23:21
by cjthibeault
Joined on Fri, Mar 25 2011, Woonsocket, Rhode Island, Posts 33

Not really. I guess it depends on how you are using it. If you have one lone trumpet very exposed, I don't think it works well at all. If you have some thick background, the flaws are less noticable. 

Now, I say this having only used it with some cheap reverb. I've recently purchased MIR, but have not yet had a chance to use it. It may be possible that it works well in MIR (and may have even been created with that specific use in mind). I just don't know yet.

I think Dimension Brass was a good idea, and a good "first attempt" at such a product. I suppose Dimension Strings will turn out better now that they have some more experience under their belts, but given my experience with Dimension Brass, I just can't take the chance on the Strings (even with the great deal going on) without an opportunity to hear the rest of the string sections., 

Overall, Dimension Brass is the product that I was the least satisfied with. The low brass was useless for me. Had to buy the bass trombone and tuba separately to have something usable. If you are on the fence, I'd say get one of the standard brass bundles. But that's just my opinion... 

Posted on Sat, Nov 03 2012 16:51
by cjthibeault
Joined on Fri, Mar 25 2011, Woonsocket, Rhode Island, Posts 33

Despite the lack of time, I decided to install my new toys this morning just to try them out. The B-flat trumpet does indeed make nice, shiny, pretty trumpet noises :) 

I was actually rather impressed with it. All those extra samples really do make a difference. Now I'm looking at everything else I have and asking if I should be getting the extended libraries. Oh well. I'm sure the student discount will come around again next year...

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