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Why doesn't the master tuning range go down to 415?
Last post Wed, Apr 17 2013 by civilization 3, 6 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Apr 15 2013 18:32
by MikeHC
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2004, Devon, UK, Posts 96

I'm puzzled why the tuning range doesn't go below 420.  Like to 415 for Baroque tuning?

OK, so in some cases you can transpose down a semitone to get the same result, but that's not much use is you have a violin part with a load of open G's: G flat won't sound!

I must have missed something...

Posted on Mon, Apr 15 2013 23:02
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1732

Use the "pitch" transpose for Baroque Tuning. With 100% you get +/- a halftone with 200% +/- a full tone.

All the best

Beat

www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
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Posted on Wed, Apr 17 2013 09:04
by MikeHC
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2004, Devon, UK, Posts 96

Thanks - do you mean the pitch control in the "Perform" section of Vienna Instruments?  Every time I click that, it springs back to the centre! - I assumed it was only for pitch bending.  How would you make it stay in a particular position?

I still don't really understand why the master tuning can't be extended to cover Baroque tuning - the original PDF user manual for Vienna Instruments 2 even specifically said it was for "adapting to the tuning of earlier musical eras"!  And it's so much easier to do it globally in VE than individually in each VI instance.

Posted on Wed, Apr 17 2013 13:02
by Beat Kaufmann
Joined on Fri, Jan 03 2003, Switzerland/Brugg, Posts 1732

Hello MikeHC

I agree, if we could tune 440 Hz to 415 Hz with the master tuner it would be great!

VSL, please >> next update? 440Hz +/- 10%

About using pitch:

Please have a look here: http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/vi-tips--tricks-1/index.php#53248297b50c2b917

I know that I should exchange the "old player pictures". But if you are a bit familar with the new one you will be able to "translate" the info to the new GUI.

So...

Open a pitch controller track within your DAW and draw the pitch constantly at -64 (0) whyle the pitch range is 100%. This leads to "baroque tune".

Beat

www.musik-produktion-createc.ch (Konzertaufnahmen, Musik mit Samples)
at www.beat-kaufmann.com : MIXING an ORCHESTRA - TUTORIAL
Posted on Wed, Apr 17 2013 13:22
by MikeHC
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2004, Devon, UK, Posts 96

Thanks very much for this.  I see how this would work in a sequencer.  But (sorry, forgot to mention) I'm using Sibelius! - no pitch controller track.  :-(

I found two kludges:

- set master tuning to 420 and challenge anyone to notice the 5Hz difference

- export the audio wav file and then use Wavelab to push it down a semitone!

Mike

Posted on Wed, Apr 17 2013 21:31
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1749
MikeHC wrote:

- set master tuning to 420 and challenge anyone to notice the 5Hz difference

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