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  • Scale runs in strings

    J
    J

    I've been using VSL for years now and have never been happy with my fast scale runs in the strings. Every time I use the fast legatos they lag behind the beat and sound unnatural and messy. I've tried using the delay function in Logic many times but that's not the problem. It's jst plain unnatural and mechanical. There must be a way with the software now being so powerful in VSL to make a matrix that can simulate that nice smearing sound but while still retaining rhythmic pulse. I'd rather not have to chop up actual audio. There are developers out there now such as the people who make Orchestral Runs Builder that seem to have cracked most of the problem, but I have VSL and its sound is superior. So I'm hoping there is a way to do this.

    In the John Williams Adventures on Earth demo there are a few rapid scale runs coming in around 40 seconds in. I wonder if they're from scale runs patches and chopped up to fit or if they're played in like all the other parts. 

    If anyone has suggestions of patches or matrices for these kind of string parts that would be very interesting and helpful. A VSL tutorial on this would also be very cool.
  • D
    D

    Have you tried the "slur" patches?

    DG
  • stryttenS
    stryttenS

    I've tried everything and nothing is convincing except the actual string run samples that are part of orchestral strings. 

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  • J
    J

    I have tried the slur patches and they do help a bit, as well as adding slight variation, which is always a good thing. But somehow, often, the scale runs sound either too edgy or a bit sloppy (not slurred but sloppy). This isn't a moan at all. Maybe it's the hardest thing to get. Easier somehow with wind instruments - why I dodn't know, maybe the sound is simpler in structure than strings.

    Herb - would you commission a demo to be made aimed specifically at showing off fast string lines made not from chopped up scale runs but triggered notes? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would find it interesting to see what can be achieved.