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Harsh glissandos
Last post Mon, May 06 2013 by clruwe, 9 replies.
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Posted on Wed, May 01 2013 01:16
by clruwe
Joined on Sat, May 07 2011, Posts 100

Before I spend unnecessary money in a so-called FX library, I was wondering if Vienna orchestral strings or the new Dimensions strings (both of which I have) are able to do harsh glissandos such as the one you would find in the Phsyco suite? I'm working on a film and the director insists he wants that sound in a specific place. I found a dedicated sample library that might do the job, but I rather not keep crowding my hard drive.

Many thanks!

C.

Running Windows 7 (64bit), I7 with 24GB of RAM
Posted on Wed, May 01 2013 01:36
by Casiquire
Joined on Sat, May 01 2010, Posts 325

I don't personally own the Vienna string instrument collections, but I'd imagine you might be able to get good results using a harsh patch with some creative pitch-bending.  Especially with something like "Dimension Strings" where you can pitch bend them all at different rates and intervals.

Posted on Wed, May 01 2013 01:48
by clruwe
Joined on Sat, May 07 2011, Posts 100

Yes I had thought about that thank you! But pitch bends never sound very realistic to me... And there's also the sound of the release which I think it's essential.

I appreciate your response!

C.

Running Windows 7 (64bit), I7 with 24GB of RAM
Posted on Wed, May 01 2013 08:53
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

Is it possible to post an audio sample of exactly what you want?

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
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RME Multiface II
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Posted on Wed, May 01 2013 14:27
by clruwe
Joined on Sat, May 07 2011, Posts 100

Hi DG, thank you for your time. I attach an example of what I mean.

Example.mp3

Running Windows 7 (64bit), I7 with 24GB of RAM
Posted on Wed, May 01 2013 15:04
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

This is possible to fake by:

  1. Use a portamento sample with stretch (in VI Pro) set to as low as possible.
  2. Reduce the volume of the start note, so you only hear the slide up to the top note.
  3. Layer it with a harsh staccato on the top note.

In the end you might find it easier to convert the samples to audio and manipulate it at that level, rather than messing around too much with MIDI.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Wed, May 01 2013 15:43
by clruwe
Joined on Sat, May 07 2011, Posts 100

Nice thought, I'll give it a try.... It never ocurred to me to stretch the portamento and I'm usually stretching everything else... duh!

Thanks a lot!

Running Windows 7 (64bit), I7 with 24GB of RAM
Posted on Mon, May 06 2013 12:31
by Saxer
Joined on Sat, Apr 18 2009, Frankfurt Germany, Posts 113
cornucopia from streszov have some psycho-style samples as a goodie (these "eeek eeek eeek"). i think i can post that here... it's far from being a competition for vsl ;-)
Posted on Mon, May 06 2013 23:07
by clruwe
Joined on Sat, May 07 2011, Posts 100

Hi Saxer, thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately I tried several variations on DG's suggestion and couldn't make it work. I was on a tight deadline so I had to buy a devoted library for it. Not the one you mentioned...

But thank you everybody for your time and help!

C.

Running Windows 7 (64bit), I7 with 24GB of RAM
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