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  • Any common tips which allows make brass sound better (i mainly talk french horn)?

    Any common tips which allows make brass sound better (i mainly talk french horn)? i know some products have better sounds with box but i maybe try survive vsl products. and better for classical and cinematic way not popular music way which i think also maybe possible if controlling is correct. to me loudest french horn notes sounds somehow soft and quiet parts then needs little more warmth. and i search brass speffic tips which seems hardest part.

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    Hi, VSL's Epic Horns (part of the 'Brass II' collection www.vsl.co.at/en/211/442/412/358/225.htm) have a very strong 'sus blare' patch - add a little reverb and it sounds great. If you layer this patch with the 'sffz' patch it sounds even stronger! These horns' quiet sustains sound pretty warm to me.


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    @Conquer said:

    Hi, VSL's Epic Horns (part of the 'Brass II' collection www.vsl.co.at/en/211/442/412/358/225.htm) have a very strong 'sus blare' patch - add a little reverb and it sounds great. If you layer this patch with the 'sffz' patch it sounds even stronger! These horns' quiet sustains sound pretty warm to me.

    i thinked again and tired listen something french horn material form youtube. I listened again problem seems be how i imagined how french horn sounds. i never imagined so metallic sounds come form french horn. i always imagined its trumpet. now i think is possible duplicate trumpet sound (for second trumpet) same way what is used for 2nd violins.

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    French horns can sound metallic on loud stopped notes (see www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpabISWmYu4), but when played normally and quietly they sound warm. There's some good info about horns, trumpets and many other orchestral instruments here www.vsl.co.at/en/70/149/150/46.vsl.


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    @Vanhapolle said:

    Any common tips which allows make brass sound better (i mainly talk french horn)? i know some products have better sounds with box but i maybe try survive vsl products. and better for classical and cinematic way not popular music way which i think also maybe possible if controlling is correct. to me loudest french horn notes sounds somehow soft and quiet parts then needs little more warmth. and i search brass speffic tips which seems hardest part.
     

    Of course you could always cheat and just add a little compression.  I find the French Horns to be a touch quiet too when i'm trying to record big epic passages.  So in lieu of buying "Epic Horns," which would be the ideal solution, I'll write chords for the horns or fatten the sound with compression.


  • I do agree that the loudest french horn notes in VSL are a bit softer than I'd like, but certain articulations bring out the louder dynamics more.  The sfz and other dynamics patches, the sustains patches, and the glissando patches get much louder than any of the legato patches.

    Personally I wish the legato patches had one more layer of crossfade to make them as loud as the glissando patches, but I think that's just me.

    As for making them "sound better", reverb is very important.  I'll run it through more than one reverb or positioner, like MIR.