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Posted on Thu, Aug 01 2013 07:15
by Icecreamman
Joined on Mon, Jun 13 2011, Posts 6

I have been 'interneting' a bit but haven't really come across much info on this. Is anyone using Vienna Ensemble as a VST host on live gigs? If so, how does it compare to software like Forte or Cantabile particularly when hosting VSL libraries alongside third party plugs like Kontakt, Trilian and GSi's VB3?

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Posted on Fri, Aug 02 2013 13:05
by mspape
Joined on Mon, Oct 09 2006, Posts 45

 Hi,

I do. Though I will admit I don't use VE as a host to plugins other than VIP, so I can't be of too much help. The plus, for me, is that the setup, without VE running in Cubase (which I'd been doing before this) is that there's less overhead in many ways: less happening on the screen and a better overview, less cpu and memory consumption, better stability. Mainly the last, actually - I stopped using cubase live when one day it crashed during a gig: not the fault of cubase as such, but I remain a bit traumatised :)

Best,

Mich

Posted on Sat, Aug 03 2013 08:04
by Icecreamman
Joined on Mon, Jun 13 2011, Posts 6

Thanks a lot for your reply Mich. Can I ask about how you set up and switch between different instruments? 

Posted on Tue, Aug 06 2013 08:26
by mspape
Joined on Mon, Oct 09 2006, Posts 45

 Hi,

No problem! My favourite way is to load each instrument as a separate matrix within the same preset, so that a single mouse click immediately activates the correct instrument. Of course, I don't use an awful lot of instruments - it's pretty much always "loads of strings", "piano", "various woodwinds" or "brass". The alternative would be to load separate instances within the same vienna ensemble, but then, if you need to switch instruments, you need to solo the one instrument and mute the others (setting each to respond to omni midi channel) - which is more clicks and thus more that can go wrong. It's a bit silly - I have this massive midi channel switch pedal specifically for this purpose and obviously this would be easier, but I dislike carrying stuff around! (also, i do like the visual certainty).

Best,

Michiel

Posted on Fri, Aug 16 2013 12:23
by Icecreamman
Joined on Mon, Jun 13 2011, Posts 6

Thanks again.

Would you or anyone else have any advice on how I could set up the different vsts I mentioned above alongside Vienna Instruments Pro in such a way that you could switch between them remotely from my midi controller without having to touch anything on my laptop. 

At the moment it seems to me that my only option is to set up the vsts on different midi channels and then switch from one to the other from my midid controller. The problem with this, though, is that it limits me to 16 instruments. Is this right or am I missing something?

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