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Rise of the Wild (MIRx demo 2)
Last post Wed, Aug 28 2013 by Guy Bacos, 6 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Aug 27 2013 02:15
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1995

To contrast the first MIRx demo, here's something different, and Stravinski-ish in places. 

Rise of the Wild

Guy

Posted on Tue, Aug 27 2013 12:29
by corte1
Joined on Sat, Oct 16 2010, Posts 85

Hey Guy,

I love the atmosphere of this piece. Your string work is fabulous as is the use of small crescendos and dimenuendos - nice. Pretty harmonically sophisticated piece and good build up of tension. I also like how you use the entire orchestra, but not all at once - it makes things very interesting to listen to - you want to listen just to foind out what happens next.

Corte

Posted on Tue, Aug 27 2013 14:24
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1076

Hi Guy,

This actually sounded a little more Ravelian to me, but I just wanted to know again how coloured the mix was. Is it just MIRx again with some Suite compression and excitement?

If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!

In these modern days to be vulgar, illiterate, common and vicious, seems to give a man a marvelous infinity of rights that his honest fathers never dreamed of. - Oscar Wilde
Posted on Tue, Aug 27 2013 16:46
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1995
corte1 wrote:

Hey Guy,

I love the atmosphere of this piece. Your string work is fabulous as is the use of small crescendos and dimenuendos - nice. Pretty harmonically sophisticated piece and good build up of tension. I also like how you use the entire orchestra, but not all at once - it makes things very interesting to listen to - you want to listen just to foind out what happens next.

Corte

Thanks Corte! Harmonically it may sound sophisticated, but in fact the entire piece is based on the first chord: (Bb-C-F-G and E above) with the exception of 2 or 3 chords at the end. Just decomposing that or transposing it trying to give it some colors and contrasts.



Errikos wrote:

Hi Guy,


This actually sounded a little more Ravelian to me, but I just wanted to know again how coloured the mix was. Is it just MIRx again with some Suite compression and excitement?






Ravel, Stravinsky, Debussy, Bartok, Shosty...  some Bacos maybe. ;)  

I used a high end sophisticated, futuristic, enhancing sound machine.  Just kidding.


I chose my patch, then select MIRx (orchestra seating, with corresponding volime), didn't touch anything else, but will explore some other options in the future. I almost always raise the detunng fader high enough and in some cases raise the release fader a bit, really depends though. These days, I like to use the VSL compression for almost all instruments, or a group selection, like dimension violins. In this piece, I also added a light "general purpose" compression at the output. I also have at the output a bit of exciter and some EQ. In a few cases I bounce sections and may add some EQ. I think that's pretty much it. This is what I did the last few demos, but I keep trying different things.

Posted on Tue, Aug 27 2013 21:45
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1076

Thanks. I'm not trying to be difficult, I just wanted to know how much of the demo was MIRx and how much other mix-magic. One more question: Do you go with the default 'Natural Volume' for the balanced mix in the MIRx demos you did, or did you use your own individual levels? That is, I don't mean the final ouput level.

If you can't notate/MIDI it yourself, it's NOT your music!

In these modern days to be vulgar, illiterate, common and vicious, seems to give a man a marvelous infinity of rights that his honest fathers never dreamed of. - Oscar Wilde
Posted on Wed, Aug 28 2013 00:34
by Guy Bacos
Joined on Sun, Jan 16 2005, Quebec, Canada, Posts 1995
Errikos wrote:

Thanks. I'm not trying to be difficult, I just wanted to know how much of the demo was MIRx and how much other mix-magic. One more question: Do you go with the default 'Natural Volume' for the balanced mix in the MIRx demos you did, or did you use your own individual levels? That is, I don't mean the final ouput level.

No problem, I understand where you're coming from. Yes, I used the natural volume on each instrument for both MIRx demos, I find it very helpful.

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