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SE Bosendorfer and full Bosendorfer
Last post Fri, Sep 13 2013 by Oceanview, 8 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Sep 09 2013 15:22
by Oceanview
Joined on Sat, Jan 12 2008, Oxford, England, Posts 152

I wonder whether anyone could comment on the difference between the Bosendorfer in the Special Edition and the full Bosendorfer - both in terms of sample content and also the sound? I'm at risk of taking advantage of Vienna's current offer  ...Wink

Thanks.

Oceanview
Posted on Mon, Sep 09 2013 17:17
by Ricardo22
Joined on Mon, Oct 08 2012, Portugal, Madeira, São Martinho, Posts 74

 The Special Edition Bosendorfer, I can't say anything about it but the Full Bosendorfer is great, the sound is very inspiring, you have 2 microphone positions, Close and Distant.. In terms of samples, it has more samples than Special Bosendorfer. The close and distant mic offers the same ammount of samples together, so you have a soft pedal and a sustain pedal. You also have a resources, in this case what I love the most is the key stroking which I felt in love with. :)

Althought, if you want an even better piano, just go for the Vienna Imperial (595€). It is indeed a powerful piano, and the best sounding Piano in VSL.

Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2013 03:10
by strytten
Joined on Sat, Jan 06 2007, Posts 65

Once you play the Imperial, you won't want to play any other sampled piano.

Steve Trytten
All VSL strings, winds, and most others, Vienna Imperial, VE Pro, MIR, Protools 10.3.5, Mac Mntn Lion 12 core, LASS, Ivory, Kontakt 5, Spitfire Sable Strings
Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2013 09:17
by Oceanview
Joined on Sat, Jan 12 2008, Oxford, England, Posts 152

The Imperial is for me at present a counsel of perfection - meaning I can't afford it. Am I right in thinking the full Bosendorfer's features are fully compatible with Sibelius 7? For example, is it clear how one would switch between the two mike positions?

Oceanview
Posted on Wed, Sep 11 2013 12:21
by Ricardo22
Joined on Mon, Oct 08 2012, Portugal, Madeira, São Martinho, Posts 74

Oceanview: You can change the mic positions but it will sound unreal. The mic positions just give you the position from where it is standing. In this case you have one that is close (Close to the Piano) and one that is distant (Distant from the piano).

Ricardo

Posted on Fri, Sep 13 2013 10:22
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1576
Oceanview wrote:

I wonder whether anyone could comment on the difference between the Bosendorfer in the Special Edition and the full Bosendorfer - both in terms of sample content and also the sound? I'm at risk of taking advantage of Vienna's current offer  ...Wink

Thanks.

 

I believe the main difference between the two are the velocity layers.  The Bos in SE only has three layers?  The full library OTHO has eight layers I think. 

The SE Bos is sampled at whole tone while the full library is sampled at half tone.  For piano, this doesn't make that much of a difference in sound quality.

And the two mic positions as mentioned before.

I tickle the ivories on occasion and can afford the Imperial but 100 velocity layers per key is a little overkill for my needsSurprise 

However, I wish Vienna would record at least four more layers for the Bos full library and offer it as an upgrade for a $100 or soBig Smile  I believe the industry standard is twelve layers with some going up to fifteen or eighteen.


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Fri, Sep 13 2013 10:48
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1576
Oceanview wrote:

Am I right in thinking the full Bosendorfer's features are fully compatible with Sibelius 7? For example, is it clear how one would switch between the two mike positions?

 

You load them up as different matrixes or presets within VI or VE.  I don't have Sibelius but it shouldn't matter because it's done within the Vienna host.  Of course, you could create your own matrixes using both mic positions but why THE HELL would you do thatHuh?


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Fri, Sep 13 2013 16:08
by Oceanview
Joined on Sat, Jan 12 2008, Oxford, England, Posts 152

I'm afraid you misunderstand me. By 'switch between' I did not mean inside or during a single piece or composition. I meant, how does one have that control generally to choose? If it is down to the presets / matrices taking care of it then that's fine and clear.

Oceanview
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