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setting up crossfades between articulations
Last post Fri, Sep 26 2014 by Raymond Robijns, 11 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Oct 26 2013 15:58
by Edward Gold
Joined on Tue, Nov 15 2011, New York, NY, Posts 122

I want to be able to automate a crossfade between, say, a tuba legato and sforzando. I don't know where to look for this information. I've been using CC2 but I gather I might have to do a volumn or expression controller.

Anyone know?

VSL Special Edition1, standard and plus, Konzerthaus Organ, Saxophones, Dimension Strings, VI Pro 1
Apple Logic 9,18 iMac 16G memory.
Posted on Sat, Oct 26 2013 21:46
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11895

Hi, 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Oct 27 2013 01:41
by Edward Gold
Joined on Tue, Nov 15 2011, New York, NY, Posts 122

Thank you Psul.

Yes I realized earlier it was probably slot crossfade I was looking for. Now I still have to figure it out.

Best,

Ed Gold

VSL Special Edition1, standard and plus, Konzerthaus Organ, Saxophones, Dimension Strings, VI Pro 1
Apple Logic 9,18 iMac 16G memory.
Posted on Thu, Oct 31 2013 02:22
by Edward Gold
Joined on Tue, Nov 15 2011, New York, NY, Posts 122

I have gone over this multiple times and still I'm doing something wrong!

I've set the Y axis to CC1, and have used the crossfade activation in the window. But it is still not staying in the second row and doesn't crossfade but simply changes. How do I get it to slot crossfade?

I'm doing something wrong with the mod wheel apparently as it controls which row I'm in and I still don't know how to smoothly change even if I keep it high.

VSL Special Edition1, standard and plus, Konzerthaus Organ, Saxophones, Dimension Strings, VI Pro 1
Apple Logic 9,18 iMac 16G memory.
Posted on Thu, Oct 31 2013 08:40
by johnstaf
Joined on Thu, Apr 21 2011, EI, Posts 189
The X and Y axis controllers have nothing to do with crossfades. They are for selecting matrices. Slot crossfades are between the slots containing the patches for a given matrix.

When you choose a matrix and go into advanced view you will see in the upper right hand corner the slots labelled 1b, 1b, 2a, 2b etc. The slot crossfades controls the transition between the a and b slots.

For a slot crossfade, you need to load patches into the a and b slots. It sounds like you're trying to xfade between matrices. The slotX control is the controller for slot cross fades btw.
Cubase (OS agnostic). Various VSL bits and pieces.

Posted on Thu, Oct 31 2013 10:26
by Conquer
Joined on Thu, Sep 28 2006, Posts 812

Hi Edward, hopefully that explanation did the trick? If not, try starting from scratch with an empty player, select the 'Advanced' view, then drag and drop a *single patch* from the Patch list into slot 1a. Then drag a different patch into slot 1b. You can now cross-fade between the two slots by using MIDI CC20 commands. To change the CC controller number to CC1 (= mod wheel), select 'Ctrl Map' (lower left of screen), select 'SlotXF', click on the box underneath 'Source', select 'Controller' and change the CC number there. HTH!

Posted on Thu, Oct 31 2013 12:18
by Edward Gold
Joined on Tue, Nov 15 2011, New York, NY, Posts 122

Thanks John and Conquer. I am also trying to automate this and have been somewhat successful by putting CC1 into the Logic 9 window. But what I want at present is a nasty snarly attack (brass group sf?) quickly getting softer and smoother to allow for the narration following to sound through.

Is not the term I want "cuvèe"?

I really do need to master slot crossfade but maybe it's not exactly what's needed here?

Ed

VSL Special Edition1, standard and plus, Konzerthaus Organ, Saxophones, Dimension Strings, VI Pro 1
Apple Logic 9,18 iMac 16G memory.
Posted on Thu, Oct 31 2013 14:57
by Conquer
Joined on Thu, Sep 28 2006, Posts 812

Cuivré (meaning 'brassy', see www.vsl.co.at/en/70/3139/3141/3142/5410.vsl).

You could try putting a 'sffz' or 'sus blare' patch in one slot, and cross-fading to 'fp' or 'sus' in the other. The sffz patches generally have the fiercest attacks in the VSL collections.

Posted on Fri, Nov 01 2013 06:31
by Edward Gold
Joined on Tue, Nov 15 2011, New York, NY, Posts 122

Yes, but I don't think I have any of the sffz or sus blare in any of the the brass samples I have so far. For the moment, I think I'll just have to make do with the Special Edition patches I already have.

VSL Special Edition1, standard and plus, Konzerthaus Organ, Saxophones, Dimension Strings, VI Pro 1
Apple Logic 9,18 iMac 16G memory.
Posted on Fri, Nov 01 2013 10:58
by Conquer
Joined on Thu, Sep 28 2006, Posts 812

The SE brass sforzatos (sfz) are pretty powerful...

Posted on Fri, Sep 26 2014 07:00
by Raymond Robijns
Joined on Tue, Feb 26 2013, The Hague, Posts 130

OK, using SlotXF is now clear. Additional question: when switching form a to b gradually, will be the b-slot on top of a-slot?If not, then theoretically I can gradually switch from sVib to sVibEpxress (weird situation).

Raymond

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