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Posted on Thu, Dec 26 2013 05:31
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2678

Hello Everybody

Hope you had a nice Xmass

I am starting to have my studio back and I discovered that now you get messages if the memory is starting to get too low.

What are your experiments with the preload buffer Size value in "Directory Manager" ?

VSL can you put the value of the Default Value ?

Best

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
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Posted on Thu, Dec 26 2013 11:00
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12583

Hi, 

Default is 16384. 

If you are using SSD drives, you can go as low as 1536.

Only exception there: Patches that allow you to change the START OFFSET of the loaded articulation, for faster response (see page 47 in VI PRO Manual, Slot Editor => Advanced). The more you cut the attack, the more you also cut from the part of the sample that is loaded into RAM. If you are at the lowest setting for, e.g., Dimension Strings, you might run into troubles there when working with, e.g., the Sequencer Presets. 

Personally, I´m using a setting of 3172 for the Dimension Strings, and 1536 for all other collections. 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Dec 26 2013 11:32
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2678

Hi Paul

Many many thanks 

What about a Raid of SSD ?

Best

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Dec 27 2013 11:16
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12583

Hi, 

Cyril wrote:
What about a Raid of SSD ?

I can remember that you have been asking this question in quite some threads already....  like this one, in March 2013.

We are not using SSD RAIDS here. 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Dec 27 2013 12:22
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2678

Hi Paul

Thanks for your answer, you have a very good memory ! better than mine !

What I have  notice in the past is that VSL is loading samples sequencialy, one VE after one VE, has that been changed ?

Best

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Dec 27 2013 12:38
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12583

Hi Cyril, 

Cyril wrote:
What I have  notice in the past is that VSL is loading samples sequencialy, one VE after one VE, has that been changed ?

Not that I know of.

So will this be another question after question thread?

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Dec 27 2013 15:40
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2678

HI Paul

Thanks

If that had changed I would need to change my raid 0 for all the VSL lib

Wish you all the best for 2014

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" + 2 x Odisseey G9 49" Big Sur
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Sat, Feb 08 2014 05:59
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

Paul wrote:
Personally, I´m using a setting of 3172 for the Dimension Strings, and 1536 for all other collections.

Hello Paul

I would like to ask if this suggested setting is based on 3 Gb/s or 6 Gb/s speed, or it doesn't matter?

Just purchased Dimension Strings and hope I won't go insane while waiting for the download to complete! Stick out tongue 

Cheers
Frankie 

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Sat, Feb 08 2014 09:31
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12583

Hi Frankie, 

If you want to make use of the sequencer phrases a lot, you should always keep a higher pre-load cache for these collections (as the attack for certain notes is changed for tighter performance, which also takes a part of the sample start which is loaded into RAM). 

I´d experiment a bit what´s right for your setup. 

Best, 

Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Feb 08 2014 10:15
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85
Paul wrote:
If you want to make use of the sequencer phrases a lot, you should always keep a higher pre-load cache for these collections (as the attack for certain notes is changed for tighter performance, which also takes a part of the sample start which is loaded into RAM).

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the info! 

Frankie 

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
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