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Best weighted key midi controller?
Last post Mon, Feb 03 2014 by Dominique, 16 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 02:52
by VirtualVirgin
Joined on Fri, Jul 20 2012, Posts 48
What is out there made just as a controller with good piano-feel keys?
I have a Yamaha S70-XS but I don't need the onboard sounds anymore.
I like the feel but I don't need the bulky machine that it is.
Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 04:59
by dbudde
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2003, Seattle,WA USA, Posts 447

http://kawaivpc.com

Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 14:34
by Ricardo22
Joined on Mon, Oct 08 2012, Portugal, Madeira, São Martinho, Posts 74

That is amazing! I'd love to known how much is one of these?

Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 14:56
by dbudde
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2003, Seattle,WA USA, Posts 447

US street price is about $1850.

Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 17:01
by Carsten Altena
Joined on Tue, Jan 06 2009, The Netherlands, Posts 76

I am very, very happy with my Doepfer LMK2+. 

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Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 17:02
by Carsten Altena
Joined on Tue, Jan 06 2009, The Netherlands, Posts 76

And if you're on a budget, try the yamaha p35 piano (could be a nice midi controller)!

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Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 17:04
by Carsten Altena
Joined on Tue, Jan 06 2009, The Netherlands, Posts 76

Oh one last thing... DON'T go for M-Audio 88 keyboards. And CME can be nice and affordable, but has baaaaad customer service.

Pop string arranger from The Netherlands.
www.onemanorchestra.com
Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 17:59
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7343
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Posted on Sun, Jan 19 2014 18:52
by Errikos
Joined on Tue, Jun 12 2007, Posts 1037
Carsten Altena wrote:

Oh one last thing... DON'T go for M-Audio 88 keyboards. And CME can be nice and affordable, but has baaaaad customer service.

Hi, I use the M-Audio Keystation-88. I'm not saying that I'm the happiest person in the world with it, but I'd like to know what you feel is bad about M-Audio keyboards.

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Posted on Mon, Jan 20 2014 19:06
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 509

I have the CME UF 5. And yes, there are better Keys outthere. But this Keyboard has everything you need (including Breathcontroller and an audiointerface) and for the price it is fine. And remember that it is not really possible just to "play" most vienna Instruments to get good results. For realistic orchestral results everything has to be edited afterwards. So for Vienna Imperial, the Rieger Orgel or the Harmonium it makes Sense to buy the best Keys. But not for Brass, Wood and so on ...

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Posted on Wed, Jan 22 2014 21:32
by Pingu
Joined on Wed, Dec 28 2005, Posts 122

+1 for not buying CME! I had the UF8, which was absolutely awful. The action was a bit like playing an ironing board, and the driver was simply garbage. Windows constantly lost sight of the keyboard, and only a complete restart would make it see it again. Although hundreds of users had the same issue CME claimed there was no issue, and got very snotty about it on their support forum. Then they simply moved on to the next generation of products without ever attempting to address the problem. I don't imagine their approach has changed.

I replaced the CME with an AKAI MPK88 Pro, and so far I'm really happy. The action is great for a mid-range keyboard, and it has aftertouch. I did think I'd miss the breath contoller input from the CME, but along came the TEC USB-breath-controller, and life is perfect.

Posted on Thu, Jan 23 2014 02:33
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5458

I was wondering about this same question myself.  I did not want a bad plastic controller like m-audio, nor a big Korg keyboard with additional things I wasn't going to use.

So I started thinking about digital pianos - they give you a controller, but also a basic sound in case you want to work out some music without complicated computer setups.   Also, they tend to have better piano touch and are more heavy duty since they have to stand up to stage use. 

So I recently got the Yamaha cp4 stage piano, which has a really fine piano sound built in.   You don't need all the excessive knobs and dials that most empty controllers have.  This has pitch wheel and mod, but mainly a very fine hammer action and wooden keys with felt pads, so it feels like a good piano.  Actually sounds better than most real pianos I've played.

Posted on Thu, Jan 23 2014 19:54
by MWE
Joined on Thu, Apr 02 2009, Netherlands, Posts 122

My 14 years old Roland digital piano keyboard still easily surpasses anything since in terms of keyboard action. As I recently found out and was explained by a piano teacher, the keyboards of digital pianos have become better in recent years and although I opted for Roland at that time (it was the only sound that somewhat classified as piano), it is currently actually Yamaha that stands out for its keyboard. 

Posted on Fri, Jan 24 2014 17:55
by Pingu
Joined on Wed, Dec 28 2005, Posts 122
MWE wrote:

My 14 years old Roland digital piano keyboard still easily surpasses anything since in terms of keyboard action. As I recently found out and was explained by a piano teacher, the keyboards of digital pianos have become better in recent years and although I opted for Roland at that time (it was the only sound that somewhat classified as piano), it is currently actually Yamaha that stands out for its keyboard. 

Definitely the way to go if you can afford. I have a Roland electric piano that's 25 years old (got it for my 18th birthday) and still has a nicer action than any controller keyboard I've tried. Sadly it's on it's way out (they used to have a system with two rubber sensors under each key - one higher than the other - and the time differential between the key hitting them was how velocity was measured. My sensors are all flat, which means there is no differential, and the piano thinks every note has been hit with infinite velocity) and I can't afford another piano, but I would ditch my AKAI keyboard in a second if I could.

If you do go with an electric piano just make sure it has the option to turn off local control - a few of them seem to make the assumption that you would never want to use the keyboard without the built in sounds.

Posted on Tue, Jan 28 2014 18:05
by strytten
Joined on Sat, Jan 06 2007, Posts 65

I recently bought a Kawai VPC1 and absolutely love it. Better than any other MIDI keyboard I've ever played. 

Steve Trytten
All VSL strings, winds, and most others, Vienna Imperial, VE Pro, MIR, Protools 10.3.5, Mac Mntn Lion 12 core, LASS, Ivory, Kontakt 5, Spitfire Sable Strings
Posted on Mon, Feb 03 2014 10:25
by Dominique
Joined on Fri, Aug 08 2008, Posts 178

+1 on digital pianos. I have a Roland FP 7F, and it's keybed is MUCH more piano-like than any midicontroller I had under my hands. The Roland A 88 could be interesting for you. It has the same keybed as their FP 4F (a digitalpiano), but it has controller functions too and is quite affordable.

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