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How to process VSL to make it sound "cinematic"?
Last post Mon, Jul 14 2014 by BachRules, 6 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Jul 13 2014 01:49
by BachRules
Joined on Sun, Mar 30 2014, Posts 360

How to process VSL samples to make them sound "Hollywood"? I don't generally want to use libraries with "cinematic" and "Hollywood" in their name, because they're not as flexible as VSL, and they're problematic in various ways which VSL samples aren't; but sometimes I do want to emulate their "cinematic / Hollywood" sound.

Any advice from people who've worked at this? I'm sure EQ, compression are involved, but I don't know the details.

I found this blog insightful, and it has a lot of interesting audio examples:

http://scoringfilm.net/

Comparing film score production with concert-hall recordings and pointing out relevant differences.

Posted on Sun, Jul 13 2014 04:05
by Peter Alexander
Joined on Wed, Aug 21 2002, Virginia, Posts 642

Using VSL as the core instrument set, I've covered a lot of this in Visual Orchestration 3: Doing the Basic Virtual Orchestral Mix. It also features the Vienna Suite and FORTI/SERTI. So there's a lot of Vienna application in the course.

Peter L. Alexander
Author, Professional Orchestration Series
www.soniccontrol.tv
www.alexanderpublishing.com
Posted on Sun, Jul 13 2014 09:12
by BachRules
Joined on Sun, Mar 30 2014, Posts 360
Peter Alexander wrote:

Using VSL as the core instrument set, I've covered a lot of this in Visual Orchestration 3: Doing the Basic Virtual Orchestral Mix. It also features the Vienna Suite and FORTI/SERTI. So there's a lot of Vienna application in the course.

Thanks for the info. I'm checking out this part of it on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMfZ-Q2s85U

Does it go further into the differences between producing for film (Hollywood style) and producing for music-listening (e.g., a CD of a symphony)? I'm no expert in either, but I imagine there's a difference, which is interesting to me.

Posted on Mon, Jul 14 2014 06:29
by Peter Alexander
Joined on Wed, Aug 21 2002, Virginia, Posts 642

I have hours on the scoring stages of Los Angeles. A so-called "Hollywood" sound is first in the writing. And as part of film marketing, a CD is usually released for listening. So any benchmarking is done with comparisons to that. I think the course title is pretty clear, Doing the BASIC Virtual Orchestral Mix. When you have the basics down you can move however you want.

Peter L. Alexander
Author, Professional Orchestration Series
www.soniccontrol.tv
www.alexanderpublishing.com
Posted on Mon, Jul 14 2014 06:59
by BachRules
Joined on Sun, Mar 30 2014, Posts 360

How can I make VSL sound like Symphobia is what I'm trying to ask. The answer isn't "use Symphobia instead of VSL", because Symphobia doesn't let me separate it's pre-fab ensembles into individual sections; it doesn't let me do lots of things which VSL does well; but I do like the sound it emits if I play a single note.

Posted on Mon, Jul 14 2014 07:02
by BachRules
Joined on Sun, Mar 30 2014, Posts 360
Peter Alexander wrote:

I have hours on the scoring stages of Los Angeles. A so-called "Hollywood" sound is first in the writing. And as part of film marketing, a CD is usually released for listening. So any benchmarking is done with comparisons to that. I think the course title is pretty clear, Doing the BASIC Virtual Orchestral Mix. When you have the basics down you can move however you want.

Do you have examples where you've made VSL sound like Symphobia?

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