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    Hi.

    I am getting an obsene amount of crashes from VEP whenever I have PLAY 4 instances in the metaframe. It will crash most likely 2 times out of three when I load it. This wasn't a problem with PLAY 3, so I guess the new background loading in PLAY 4 is causing this. Anyone who found a solution? Crashlog could look like this:

    Process:         Vienna Ensemble Pro [644]

    Path:            /Applications/Vienna Ensemble Pro/Vienna Ensemble Pro Server (64-bit).app/Contents/MacOS/Vienna Ensemble Pro

    Identifier:      at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro

    Version:         5.3.13333 (5.3.13333)

    Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)

    Parent Process:  launchd [215]

    Responsible:     Vienna Ensemble Pro [644]

    User ID:         501

    Date/Time:       2014-09-16 16:47:57.063 +0200

    OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.9.4 (13E28)

    Report Version:  11

    Anonymous UUID:  3C68A101-D615-8EB3-8EB8-E65635007887

    Crashed Thread:  56

    Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)

    Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000016

    Thread 56 Crashed:
    0   com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff8f029054 CloseResFileCommon + 672
    1   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c293bf9d W32AA7522021A65FC::F752C0B1A68BE0D71() + 15
    2   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c293ba68 C654F355485F16239::Close(bool) + 44
    3   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c2936343 Q5F44626F3C243CDB::V31866D070CAED8DB() + 271
    4   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c2931b20 O11D6535C26C65F5C::L33E34C8A2BAEEB6E(unsigned int) + 236
    5   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c293266b O11D6535C26C65F5C::X5C3276F51E196767(unsigned int, SCMRandomSeed const&) + 149
    6   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c2930cf5 V60180DC6FC316B41::Z1458132D7BE95ACD() + 137
    7   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c28ecd5e P08C752CBA8F9AAAC::I60014CD0E115A751() + 86
    8   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c28ecdd3 P08C752CBA8F9AAAC::N545A3DD373E3FBE8() + 17
    9   com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c29503ab CPACELicenseILokImp::GetLicenseTerms(CCDRMContent&, bool, bool*, bool, CPACEILok*, bool) + 1225
    10  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c28ec492 CPACELicense::GetLicenseTerms(CCDRMContent&, bool, bool*, bool, CPACEILok*) + 72
    11  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c272b9c2 ousia::PACE::Decrypt::getLicense(CCDRMContent*, juce::String&) + 338
    12  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c272c737 ousia::PACE::CDRMContent::decryption(void**, int&, juce::String&) + 311
    13  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c25e113a ousia::Streams::Blowfish::runKeyFileDecryption(juce::InputStream*, void**, int&, juce::String&) + 394
    14  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c25e5758 ousia::Streams::Blowfish::loadKeyFile(juce::File const&, juce::String&) + 296
    15  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c25dbedc ousia::AuthoringTool::readKeyFiles(int, juce::String&, ousia::patchLoadInfo&) + 2092
    16  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c2622432 ousia::Engine::readKeyFiles(int) + 82
    17  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c26dec04 ousia::EffectManager::initEffectManager(int) + 68
    18  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c26df4cd ousia::EffectManager::createEffect(juce::String const&, ousia::EffectBus*) + 189
    19  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c26d594a ousia::EffectBus::insertEffect(unsigned long, ousia::EffectType, bool, juce::String, juce::String) + 74
    20  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c26f6d69 ousia::EffectReturn::readBinary(juce::GZIPDecompressorInputStream&, juce::String&, ousia::patchLoadInfo&) + 697
    21  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c26f8b8f ousia::EffectReturnManager::readBinary(juce::GZIPDecompressorInputStream&, juce::String&, ousia::patchLoadInfo&) + 831
    22  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c2687a03 ousia::Instrument::readBinary(juce::GZIPDecompressorInputStream&, juce::String&, ousia::patchLoadInfo&) + 595
    23  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c261d4bd ousia::Engine::readBinary(juce::GZIPDecompressorInputStream&, juce::String&, ousia::patchLoadInfo&) + 1069
    24  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c26350d6 ousia::Engine::setChunk(char*, int, bool, ousia::patchLoadInfo*, juce::String&) + 1014
    25  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c2766153 ousia::PatchLoader::loadChunk() + 131
    26  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c2767bda ousia::PatchLoader::run() + 2250
    27  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c25b623f juce::Thread::threadEntryPoint() + 91
    28  com.eastwest.Play             0x00000001c25a2178 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 29
    29  libsystem_pthread.dylib       0x00007fff95a86899 _pthread_body + 138
    30  libsystem_pthread.dylib       0x00007fff95a8672a _pthread_start + 137
    31  libsystem_pthread.dylib       0x00007fff95a8afc9 thread_start + 13
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    Now it is more like 9 out of 10. And it is just as often thread 0 that crashes. This has gotten much worse with newest PLAY and newest Vienna Ensemble Pro hmm.
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    ...reverting back to 13240 seems to have fixed things more or less at least.
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    Been having the same problem with Play 4 in our template metaframe.
    I'll get about 3-4 crashes in the morning before it finally takes, seems solid after that, just the initial loadup that seems to crash it.

    Currently running:
    -Mac OSX 10.9.5
    -VEP v5.3.13407 --- (had this issue with previous versions of VEP as well)
    -Play v4.2.2 --- (As you said above, this is the real culprit (this was not a problem for us with v4.0.18, but we were finally forced to upgrade for other compatibilty reasons))
    -Kontakt v5.4.1

    I'll post my bug report as well next time it crashes... which should be soon...
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    I am on 5.3.13407 on 10.9 mavericks. So far no issues.

    Im using 9 play plugins with 81 instrumetns and will be running many many instances on this same box. I am trying to get all articulations for EWQLSO on this box. if i can.

    ;) prolly a fools errend though. anyone else hate SO's extra license just buy the whole thing again policy POUT ;( Sadly I missed out on the 99 bucks extra license sale last April.
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    As promised, here's my crash report from this morning...
    Here's to hoping that someone from VSL support and/or EastWest support see's this forum post... In our template we have two instances of play, it seems to most often crash while loading the second instance which contains piano/keyboard instruments/harp... Not entirely sure, but I think it crashes while loading specifically the harp from EWQLSO more often than others...


    Process: Vienna Ensemble Pro [306]
    Path: /Applications/Vienna Ensemble Pro/Vienna Ensemble Pro Server (64-bit).app/Contents/MacOS/Vienna Ensemble Pro
    Identifier: at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro
    Version: 5.3.13407 (5.3.13407)
    Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
    Parent Process: launchd [202]
    Responsible: Vienna Ensemble Pro [306]
    User ID: 501

    Date/Time: 2014-10-23 10:07:50.210 -0700
    OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.5 (13F34)
    Report Version: 11
    Anonymous UUID: 8E0EF0BD-2B77-B46D-3573-483D3E1AC3C8


    Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

    Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
    Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000016

    VM Regions Near 0x16:
    -->
    __TEXT 0000000100000000-0000000100e74000 [ 14.5M] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Vienna Ensemble Pro/Vienna Ensemble Pro
    Server (64-bit).app/Contents/MacOS/Vienna Ensemble Pro

    Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff91f601ba GetOverrideMapFromChain + 64
    1 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff91f5f0f3 StandardEntry + 279
    2 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff91f5eeaf GetResourceCommon + 46
    3 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117b6232f NI::GP::ResourceStorage::init(void*, unsigned int, char const*) + 79
    4 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117b6d862 NI::UIA::AppModule::getResource(unsigned int, char const*, NI::GP::Endian::eByteOrder) + 258
    5 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c2f281 NI::NGL::ResourceManager::getResource(unsigned int, char const*) const + 321
    6 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f289 NI::NGL::Form::create(unsigned int) + 73
    7 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c231ea NI::NGL::FormContainer::createAndAddForm(NI::NGL::Form*, unsigned int, bool) + 74
    8 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117be8ab0 NI::NGL::SubFormControl::onInit(NI::NGL::Form*) + 224
    9 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f900 NI::NGL::Form::init() + 304
    10 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x00000001184494ee Module::init() + 14
    11 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x000000011841731e InstEditModule::init() + 30
    12 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x00000001183f5fe7 GroupEditorModule::init() + 39
    13 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f2b6 NI::NGL::Form::create(unsigned int) + 118
    14 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c231ea NI::NGL::FormContainer::createAndAddForm(NI::NGL::Form*, unsigned int, bool) + 74
    15 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117be8ab0 NI::NGL::SubFormControl::onInit(NI::NGL::Form*) + 224
    16 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f900 NI::NGL::Form::init() + 304
    17 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c26bee NI::NGL::ScrollableForm::init() + 14
    18 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x00000001184778a0 InstEdit::init() + 32
    19 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f2b6 NI::NGL::Form::create(unsigned int) + 118
    20 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c231ea NI::NGL::FormContainer::createAndAddForm(NI::NGL::Form*, unsigned int, bool) + 74
    21 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117be8ab0 NI::NGL::SubFormControl::onInit(NI::NGL::Form*) + 224
    22 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x000000011847ea82 InstEditSubFormControl::onInit(NI::NGL::Form*) + 18
    23 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f900 NI::NGL::Form::init() + 304
    24 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x00000001184494ee Module::init() + 14
    25 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000118491cdd Multi::init() + 29
    26 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f2b6 NI::NGL::Form::create(unsigned int) + 118
    27 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c231ea NI::NGL::FormContainer::createAndAddForm(NI::NGL::Form*, unsigned int, bool) + 74
    28 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117be8ab0 NI::NGL::SubFormControl::onInit(NI::NGL::Form*) + 224
    29 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f900 NI::NGL::Form::init() + 304
    30 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x00000001184494ee Module::init() + 14
    31 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x00000001184976c6 RackContainerForm::init() + 38
    32 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c1f2b6 NI::NGL::Form::create(unsigned int) + 118
    33 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117c231ea NI::NGL::FormContainer::createAndAddForm(NI::NGL::Form*, unsigned int, bool) + 74
    34 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x00000001183d0858 KontaktFormManager::init() + 184
    35 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x000000011804b84c BEngine::InitFormManager(BFormManager*) + 44
    36 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x000000011781104a BPluginEditor::createAndAddForms() + 58
    37 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117810f73 BPluginEditor::BPluginEditor(NI::AB::IInstrument*, BFormManager*) + 115
    38 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x00000001178036a0 BApp::createEditorFor(NI::AB::IInstrument*) + 48
    39 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117803c09 NI::AU::App::onEvent(unsigned int, NI::UIA::EventData*) + 73
    40 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117b6cb50 NI::UIA::Application::onWndEvent(unsigned int, NI::UIA::EventData*, NI::UIA::Application::WndEventExtra const&) + 80
    41 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117b6cad3 NI::UIA::Application::sendEvent(unsigned int, NI::UIA::EventData*) + 35
    42 Kontakt 5.MusicDevice.component 0x0000000117810b35 -[NIKontakt5AUCocoaViewFactory uiViewForAudioUnit:withSize:] + 133
    43 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x0000000100038de2 AUCocoaEditor::createEditor(QWidget*, CAAudioUnit const&) + 946
    44 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010003f96f AUPlugin::getGui(bool) + 767
    45 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x00000001001c3b83 InstrumentSource::getGui(bool) + 83
    46 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x0000000100262fb3 VFMainWindow::updateChannelGui(ChannelSource*, bool) + 883
    47 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010028021b VFMainWindow::qt_static_metacall(QObject*, QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) + 4203
    48 QtCore 0x000000010168fd0e QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) + 1566
    49 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x00000001004a4dd1 VIAudioEngine::channelCurrentChanged(ChannelSource*) + 49
    50 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010018378c VIAudioEngine::load(QHash const&, bool, bool, int) + 10860
    51 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010017020f VIAudioEngine::load(QDataStream&, bool, bool, int) + 175
    52 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010027d71b VFMainWindow::loadProject(QByteArray const&, bool) + 235
    53 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010027f75c VFMainWindow::qt_static_metacall(QObject*, QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) + 1452
    54 QtCore 0x000000010168be01 QObject::event(QEvent*) + 1073
    55 QtGui 0x0000000101a66e2e QWidget::event(QEvent*) + 78
    56 QtGui 0x0000000101e1762b QMainWindow::event(QEvent*) + 219
    57 QtGui 0x0000000101a0c7ed QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) + 189
    58 QtGui 0x0000000101a131f8 QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) + 232
    59 QtCore 0x000000010167764c QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) + 124
    60 QtCore 0x0000000101678c00 QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendPostedEvents(QObject*, int, QThreadData*) + 736
    61 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010028614f VFMainWindow::VFMainWindow(QWidget*) + 22975
    62 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010022a7fd VFServerWindow::createVFInstance(QString const&, QSemaphore*, bool) + 573
    63 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x00000001002384f8 VFServerWindow::loadFile(QString const&, bool) + 2504
    64 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x0000000100240262 VFServerWindow::qt_static_metacall(QObject*, QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) + 1634
    65 QtCore 0x000000010168be01 QObject::event(QEvent*) + 1073
    66 QtGui 0x0000000101a66e2e QWidget::event(QEvent*) + 78
    67 QtGui 0x0000000101e1762b QMainWindow::event(QEvent*) + 219
    68 QtGui 0x0000000101a0c7ed QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) + 189
    69 QtGui 0x0000000101a131f8 QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) + 232
    70 QtCore 0x000000010167764c QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) + 124
    71 QtCore 0x0000000101678c00 QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendPostedEvents(QObject*, int, QThreadData*) + 736
    72 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff98d105b1 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_SOURCE0_PERFORM_FUNCTION__ + 17
    73 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff98d01c62 __CFRunLoopDoSources0 + 242
    74 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff98d013ef __CFRunLoopRun + 831
    75 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff98d00e75 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 309
    76 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff8f851a0d RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 226
    77 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff8f851685 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 173
    78 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff8f8515bc _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 65
    79 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff90f0624e _DPSNextEvent + 1434
    80 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff90f0589b -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 122
    81 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff90ef999c -[NSApplication run] + 553
    82 QtGui 0x00000001019c4d90 0x101983000 + 269712
    83 QtCore 0x0000000101676564 QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags) + 68
    84 QtCore 0x0000000101676914 QEventLoop::exec(QFlags) + 324
    85 QtCore 0x000000010167918c QCoreApplication::exec() + 188
    86 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x000000010048df2e main + 15198
    87 at.co.vsl.viennaensemblepro 0x00000001000093d4 start + 52

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    ...

    Model: MacPro5,1, BootROM MP51.007F.B03, 6 processors, 6-Core Intel Xeon, 3.33 GHz, 48 GB, SMC 1.39f11
    Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5770, ATI Radeon HD 5770, PCIe, 1024 MB
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 120, NVIDIA GeForce GT 120, PCIe, 512 MB
    Memory Module: DIMM 1, 16 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x857F, 0x463732324752363846393333334700000000
    Memory Module: DIMM 2, 16 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x857F, 0x463732324752363846393333334700000000
    Memory Module: DIMM 3, 16 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x857F, 0x463732324752363847393333334700000000
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8E), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.22)
    Bluetooth: Version 4.2.7f3 14616, 3 services, 15 devices, 2 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Ethernet 1, Ethernet, en0
    PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 5770, Display Controller, Slot-1
    PCI Card: pci104c,8025, IEEE 1394 Open HCI, Slot-2@7,0,0
    PCI Card: pci1b21,612, AHCI Controller, Slot-3
    PCI Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 120, Display Controller, Slot-4
    Serial ATA Device: OWC Mercury EXTREME Pro 6G SSD, 480.1 GB
    Serial ATA Device: OWC Mercury EXTREME Pro 6G SSD, 480.1 GB
    Serial ATA Device: Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series, 512.11 GB
    Serial ATA Device: WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0, 2 TB
    Serial ATA Device: WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0, 2 TB
    Serial ATA Device: ST4000DX001-1CE168, 4 TB
    USB Device: Hub
    USB Device: USB Receiver
    USB Device: eLicenser
    USB Device: USB Keystation 88es
    USB Device: Keyboard Hub
    USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse
    USB Device: Apple Keyboard
    USB Device: Hub
    USB Device: iLok
    USB Device: ProtectExecuter
    USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    FireWire Device: StudioKonnekt48, TC Electronic, Up to 400 Mb/sec
    FireWire Device: built-in_hub, Up to 800 Mb/sec



    And I'm gonna stop there because the VSL forum seems to need me to manually add in line breaks to not have this be a big huge block of text... Unless there's a formatting button I'm missing here??
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    @adriaantaylor said:

    I am on 5.3.13407 on 10.9 mavericks. So far no issues.

    Im using 9 play plugins with 81 instruments and will be running many many instances on this same box. I am trying to get all articulations for EWQLSO on this box. if i can.

    😉 prolly a fools errand though. anyone else hate SO's extra license just buy the whole thing again policy POUT ;( Sadly I missed out on the 99 bucks extra license sale last April.




    Are you running Play v4.2.2? If not what version?
    Do you have any Kontakt instruments in there as well?

    Also, I agree, I hate the use of iLok with Play... makes working with redundant workstations expensive as shit.
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    OH i don't mind iLok what i mind is soundsonline is unreasonable with their licensing.. that has little to do with pace!  i mean the additional licenses for almost as much as the full always 50% off price? Really O.o

    Its a bit steep!

    and they really didn't show the advantages of platnium with 4 separate licenses one per group Strings/brass/woodwinds/percussion. That would have been nice to really hilight in the comparasson chart.. sigh..

     As for the Play version Play 4.2.2 no kontact stuff in there yet. I am making one massive nuendo/cubase template with all articulations. So its slow gonig with naming tracks etc.

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    It crashes while loading Celeste a lot as well, if not more than Harp. Also, I can always tell when it's about to crash... When the loading screen pops up for the second instance (mentioned above), the bar never starts moving while the names of the instruments flash by as they're loading. Inevitably, it lands on a particular instrument and stalls, then VEP crashes.
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    pparker88:

    Simon's initial crash showed Play crashing in some of its iLok code.

    Your crash report shows Kontakt crashing in some gui creation code. Please kontakt Native Instruments support with your krash report, they should be able to help you further.

    If you want fast and accurate response to VEP crash reports, please email support@vsl.co.at, which is our primary support channel.
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    Hey Martin, thanks for the insight!

    Stemming from a discussion I was having in the EastWest forums, I have just changed our metaframe template to initiated loading the two instances containing Play first and then the instances containing Kontakt. This seems to have remedied the issue for me for the time being (have only loaded the metaframe twice, but no crashes so far...)

    If I have any more crashes or other issues I will certainly file a report directly with VSL support, thank you again!

    Cheers,
    Paul
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    From what i know.. and have heard.. Kontact wiil totaly do a RAM grab as much as it can get its grubby paws on.  Its best to load it last
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    Yes, and I have gotten my template not crashing by loading the PLAY instances LAST. So in other words, it seems totally random, what works...:) It crashed at once when I tried putting my 4 PLAY instances first....

    Both Kontakt and PLAY seem to not play nicely with VEP. I doubt neither will do anything about it though.
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    Yeah, I wouldn't assign causality to any ordering like that.. I would not like to be forced to order my instance behind this kind of crap.
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    The order of plugins should not matter. If it does, it points to some memory corruption bug in one (or more) of your plugins. This can (and will) cause undefined strange behavior and crashes.
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    I'm somewhat stable but PLAY causes Cubase to crash when loading a project, so I moved PLAY to VEP. I HOPE it doesn't start to crash VEP frequently or I'm going to need to abandon PLAY all together....It's a shame these plugins are having issues. Kontakt and PLAY are pretty much the reason I purchased VEP.
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    And now in Yosemite Play not load nothing in his memory server in VEP 32 bits !!! When one wants to put a large template with Play in VEP 32 bits = CRASH !!

    What a SHAME !!
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    Yosemite is 64 bits. Play 4 is 64 bits. .VE Pro has a 64 and a 32 bit  bit server.

    Guess which one it makes more sense to put Play 4 in? :)
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    Mavericks is 64 bits, Play is 64 bits. I put Play where I want (64 or 32 ) according to what I want to do.

    In Yosemite this is not possible because an issue in Play 4, then for what your server is used ?
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    1. Technology moves on and backwards compatibility is not forever.

    2. The 32 bit server is for any remaining 32 bit software instruments you use. Like Sylenth, I believe.

    Anyway, if you insist on using the 32 bit server for 64 buit plug-ins then load Play 4 in the 64 bit server and load Kontakt in the 32 bit server since you say that still is possible.

    But personally, I recommend you say to 32 bit anything, "Thanks guys it was fun but it's over. :)