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New Mac Pro with VE Pro 5
Last post Sat, Oct 18 2014 by DG, 10 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Oct 02 2014 16:02
by Chris T
Joined on Fri, Mar 23 2012, Posts 39
I'm thinking of doing a big upgrade soon. Anybody else using Digital Perfomer 8, VE Pro, a ton of VIs, soft synths, plugs etc with the NEW Mac Pro? If so how is it behaving, and what Mac Pro specs are you on? I obviously want the most powerful Mac possible, but don't want to overkill it if DP can't utilize the extra juice.

I'm working in DP8, running video off program drive, running samples of 2 or 3 external drives. In DP on the Mac Pro I'll be running my samples in Kontakt, also multiple VIs / plugs - Spectrasonics, Ozone, Waves, Altiverb etc. I also plan to run templates in VE Pro Server on the same machine (various Kontakt libraries, and all my drums / perc sounds - Cinesamples, Truestrike etc). Loops also - in Kontakt, Stylus, Stormdum.

With this is mind, would a 12-Core, 2.7Ghz machine be better than the 6-Core 3.5Ghz machine ? (I.e. apart from DP, does the other software I used benefit better from more (slower) cores, or fewer (faster) cores?

Also, there's a rumor that a new MAC PRO might be out by end of this year / early 2015 with the new Xeon processors, so I'm wondering if I should wait till then…. Problem is I'm still on OS10.6.8 (an old 2007 Mac Pro), so I'm not able to upgrade my OS to Mavericks until I get the new machine, which is now becoming problematic.

Any thoughts would be most appreciated!

Gracias!
Posted on Fri, Oct 03 2014 00:27
by cbird1057
Joined on Fri, May 11 2012, Posts 8
Hey there! I just saw your message because I was doing an upgrade to Mavericks with DP 8.07 and ran into a snag...

Guess what? VE Pro 5 version 5.3.13333 does not work and creates a very annoying error message that requires a force quit. Yuck.


Mas,0 error reported by Mas Audio Unit Support
Failure: Base::New 160 -50 [-50]


As it turns out, we need to downgrade to the previous version of VE Pro 5, which is 5.3.13240

Available here: http://www.vsl.co.at/en/68/428/2022/1709.htm

Current version of Kontakt runs fine, no problems with Omnisphere and MachFive (these are the only virtual instruments I use).

I've found Mavericks to be a smidge faster for most processes, with this VE Pro problem being the only issue thus far.

Hope this helps!

Posted on Fri, Oct 03 2014 01:42
by Chris T
Joined on Fri, Mar 23 2012, Posts 39
Thanks CBird.

Any opinions about which computer would be best overall for my purposes? 6,8 or 12-core?...
Posted on Fri, Oct 03 2014 16:52
by cbird1057
Joined on Fri, May 11 2012, Posts 8
Go for the cores. I use 2 iMacs: a Core 2 Duo that runs DP & Omnisphere, and a 3.4 gHz Quad core i7 that runs 2 VE Pro servers with 16 Kontakt instances each for 256 instruments. It never seems to complain (compared to when I was using the Core 2 only) so I have to assume the cores are the way to go.
Posted on Fri, Oct 03 2014 23:57
by dvithyavuthi
Joined on Thu, Sep 23 2010, Posts 7
Ya definitely more cores are better. Having a faster speed with less cores will bottleneck the processing if things start to build up.

I have a Mac Pro 12 core with DP 8.07 and VEPro 5.3.13333 and everything runs smoothly for me with a huge template.
Posted on Thu, Oct 09 2014 20:10
by rJames
Joined on Sun, Apr 20 2008, Posts 36

Your solution didn't work for me.  Dang.  New Mac Pro.

Mac Pro, 2 x 3.2 GHz Quad Core Zeon, 10 G ram, System 10.6.2, Logic 9.0.2
Logic Pro 9.0.2, Kontakt 4.0.12755,Mobile I/O 5.2 (with latest and correct firmware)
VE Pro v4.0 build 4686
Posted on Tue, Oct 14 2014 17:29
by cbird1057
Joined on Fri, May 11 2012, Posts 8
Ohhhh, sorry to hear that.

Did you find a solution?
Posted on Sat, Oct 18 2014 04:24
by Chris T
Joined on Fri, Mar 23 2012, Posts 39
I also posted on Mac Rumors, and it seems like there's a consensus AGAINST getting a 12-core nMP for DAW use since most audio software cannot really utilize that many cores, and so the individual processor speed is the crucial factor.

Any more opinions on this?..
Posted on Sat, Oct 18 2014 09:14
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2629
Chris T wrote:
I also posted on Mac Rumors, and it seems like there's a consensus AGAINST getting a 12-core nMP for DAW use since most audio software cannot really utilize that many cores, and so the individual processor speed is the crucial factor. Any more opinions on this?..

I can tell you it is not true with Logic and VSL

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
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Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
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Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
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Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Sat, Oct 18 2014 11:57
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608
Cyril wrote:
Chris T wrote:
I also posted on Mac Rumors, and it seems like there's a consensus AGAINST getting a 12-core nMP for DAW use since most audio software cannot really utilize that many cores, and so the individual processor speed is the crucial factor. Any more opinions on this?..

I can tell you it is not true with Logic and VSL

Not true with Cubase or Nuendo either. It used to be that they were
locked to a maximum of 32 cores (in the days when 8 was normal) but that
restriction has now been lifted, so both programs will use whatever you have.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
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