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Posted on Thu, Oct 09 2014 16:30
by astukaskas
Joined on Wed, Jun 13 2012, Posts 3

Hy everybody.



I just buy the Macbook Pro retina 15" 2014, and i work with logic and libraries perfectly.

The SSD system drive is unbelievable, kind of 800MB/sec fast. I moved my libraries from external dedicate "old" firewire 7200 rpm drive just to test the overall performances ad is absolutely incredible. Loading times are no more a wait, and i can work at very low buffer size ( 32 in logic pro 9.1.8 ) with no pops so smoothly.

The question is: any problem if i store my most used sample libraries in the system drive? The idea is to keep the most demanding ones on the OS ssd super fast drive, and the other ones on an external ssd usb3 drive just to spread things.

Is this makes sense? It's a very a shame to not take full advantage of that performance in sample streaming related apps.

Thanks a lot in advance

Posted on Mon, Oct 13 2014 05:02
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2629

Why not putting your lib on Thunderbolt ssd ?

If I had to put  my system and lib on the same ssd, I will make a volume for each ; but it is better to have separate ssd for each

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Thu, Oct 16 2014 10:56
by astukaskas
Joined on Wed, Jun 13 2012, Posts 3
thanks for reply
yes is an optjon, do you think i'll go better also if the external ssd tbolt is technically slower than the ssd internal one?
it s a pretty expensive solution and i would be sure that worth every penny...
thanks
Posted on Thu, Oct 16 2014 13:05
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2629

look at this;

If this solution is slower than th internal drive you can put your system on it and put your lib in the internal ssd :

Thunderbolt Storage With Any 2.5" Hard Drive or SSD 

We just completed a review of the Seagate Thunderbolt adapter which is designed for Seagate's line of GoFlex portable hard drives. The Thunderbolt adapter is appealing, but with current Seagate externals it can only go so far, equaling USB 3.0 and FireWire 800 speeds due to the limitations of the external hard drives offered. What's really interesting though, is the Thunderbolt adapter uses a standard SATA interface for data and power, meaning users could buy the $99 sled and connect pretty much any 2.5" hard drive to SSD to take full advantage of the Thunderbolt port, without paying the massive premium for current pre-packaged external Thunderbolt storage options. That's exactly what we did, pairing the Thunderbolt adapter with the Intel SSD 520 and showing how much performance scales from USB 2.0 to native SATA.

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Mon, Oct 20 2014 09:46
by astukaskas
Joined on Wed, Jun 13 2012, Posts 3
thanks, for advice.
Good idea to put the system outside.

Anyway: do you think i do something REALLY wrong if i use the library and the system on the same super fast internal? or you think the overall performances are even better ( also considering the enormous amount of stream bandwidth and access / read on system files ) using TWO different drives instead of one so fast?

Thanks a LOT for your interest.




Posted on Mon, Oct 20 2014 10:48
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2629
astukaskas wrote:
Anyway: do you think i do something REALLY wrong if i use the library and the system on the same super fast internal? .

You can alway try on the super fast internal, but make two volumes , one for system, one for VSL samples

astukaskas wrote:
also considering the enormous amount of stream bandwidth and access / read on system files )

It is not the system that will use bandwidth, it is reading VSL samples

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
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