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  • SSD Drives with New Mac Pro and VE Pro / DP8

    C
    C
    I just got the new Mac Pro 12-Core with 64GB of RAM. I run DP 8 and VE Ens Pro server (for sounds). The internal drive I have is 500GB, so I was planning on just running programs, synth libraries (e.g. NI, Omnisphere, Stylus RMX etc) and Movies off the internal, with the rest of my sound libraries (East-West Orch, LASS, Cinesamples etc) on Exernal Thunderbolt drives. I'm planning to run DP Work sessions (including audio) on an 2nd external TB drive, with two more large externals for my backups / clones. (backups would be just regular SATA). My question is: Is there a consensus on the best means and location for storing Sample libraries and Work sessions? A lot of folks like the TB RAID drives (e.g. G-Tech / Pegasus RAID etc), however these are traditional SATA drives. Why would these be any better than SSD drives to run samples & sessions? I assume it's just the COST of 1TB SSDs that prevents people from going all SSD for external storage - am I correct? Also, assuming SSDs are the better / faster option, can anyone recommend the best way to hook them up? Should I do just do individual TB cables or a 2-drive SSD enclosure with 1TB cable? If I get enclosure, might this not cause a bottleneck since at least 2 drives at once could be trying to access the same TB connection?… Your thoughts on External storage / Performance for the NEw Mac Pro would be most appreciated! (also any OS Yosemite issues I should be aware of re. DP8 / general VIs / plugs. I have most of the big ones..). Thnx
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC

    The best to the worse place to store your samples, especially VSL ones (The best is to run the BlackMagic disk speed test )

    - Raid 0 of Apple internal SSD

    - Internal Apple internal SSD

    - Raid of SSD on a PCI card (check the speed before to buy)

    - SSD on a PCI card (check the speed before to buy)

    - On a Sata III card, Raid 0 of SSD

    - On a Sata III card, SSD

    - On a Sata II card, Raid 0 of SSD

    - On a Sata II card, Raid of HD (Raptor ........) > 10 000 rpm

    - On a Sata II card, Raid of 7200 rpm

    To forget :

    - FW800 HD

    - FW 400 HD

    - USB 1 & 2 HD

    - 5400 rpm disks

    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • M
    M

    Hello, I just buy an external Thunderbolt Akitio SSD 2To (2x1 To) to put all VSL library (and others). If I understand what you say : Create a raid 0 is better than two separates disk ? 
  • C
    C
    Thinking about it I'd be fine with the 500GB internal to store my CURRENT work projects. I can just archive old projects more often to external SATAs so as to free up room on my internal SSD. My only concern would be, which would be most taxing on my system of these two options: 1. Run work off the internal SSD (which is also being accessed for Apps - i.e. DP / VEP, AND running heavy plugins (e.g. Altiverb etc), AND running Video. or, 2. Run work off an external (500 or 1TB) SSD, either in a 4-drive TB enclosure or in its own dedicated enclosure, since I'll also be running sounds from another drive in that enclosure, so wouldn't want to tax the system that way. Any opinions?
  • Cyril BlancC
    Cyril BlancC
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    @Macgort said:

     If I understand what you say : Create a raid 0 is better than two separates disk ? 

    Yes for the Libs it is an advantage as this should gain I/O traffic by 1.5 ; allowing to reduce pre-load buffer size

    but be carefull, if you have a problem on one disk you loose both, so backup it contents on a normal HD

    The advantage of a Raid 0 on the Libs is that they hardly changes so you are not fregmenting you Raid

    I will not put my system on a Raid 0 but on a Raid 1, mine is on a separate 64 GB SSD

    For storing songs :

    1) Your song only contains MIDI, use a normal HD

    2) Your song contains a lot of audio track ; this will depends of the number of audio track, you may have to put this song on a raid 1 of HD 10 000 rpm or on a SSD

    MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48" screen --- Logic Pro --- Mir Pro 3D --- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs --- Quite a few Kontakt libs --- CS80 fanatic
  • M
    M

    Thank's Cyril ! Let's go to Raid 0 ! For information, this HD is destinate to a nomad use. I alway's got about 2 copy off all my MacPro's HD in two places in France. Data's copy is the rule number one ! And Time Machine is the best for your système... But i'm far of the sujet, sorry... [:D] Just one thing : Akitio's fan in verry loud ! I just unscrew it...