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Long rumbling tremolos?
Last post Wed, Nov 17 2004 by Carter, 11 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Nov 16 2004 14:04
by Neil C
Joined on Wed, Jun 16 2004, UK, Posts 113
Hi there

Any one know how you get a long, soft tremolo (timps otr bass drum) lasting for say 8 bars?

All the examples I'm looking at seem to be a maximum of 4secs? Confused

Cheers
Neil
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Posted on Tue, Nov 16 2004 15:40
by mathis
Joined on Sat, Feb 07 2004, Munich, Germany, Posts 1138
Load the sample into your audio editor and loop/edit it to your need.
Posted on Tue, Nov 16 2004 15:44
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622
Before the note ends, I'm triggering the note again. I mostly use the variations with release samples for that.

best
Herb
Posted on Tue, Nov 16 2004 17:24
by jbm
Joined on Fri, Jan 16 2004, Posts 1159
You could take two channels/tracks/staves with the same tremolo, and dovetail them, so that they overlap by an eighth note, or so... Stravinsky did that in Le Sacre du Printemps to get extra long trills from wind instruments.

J.
Posted on Tue, Nov 16 2004 19:57
by SyQuEsT
Joined on Mon, Jan 13 2003, Quebec, Posts 617
jbm ... true for wind instruments but for percussions you don't need two channels/tracks or staves. Percussionists are able to play tremolos several minutes (hours ? Smile) long ...
Mathieu Laprise
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Posted on Wed, Nov 17 2004 08:52
by Neil C
Joined on Wed, Jun 16 2004, UK, Posts 113
That make sense - esp the release samples....

Thanks

NC
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Posted on Wed, Nov 17 2004 10:42
by Sapkiller
Joined on Tue, Nov 05 2002, Copenhagen - Denmark, Posts 395
well, for the score oriented folks such as myself - dual tracks or retriggering is'nt an optimal solution - does'nt look right in the score. Loops would be the right way to go.

I have looped a couple of the Timp-samples - but its a tedious job to find the right loop points, zero crossings and matching the start- and end-levels.
So, Herb, are you're by any chance planning to do it sometime, in a not so distant future ?

best regards
Bjarne Kristiansen
Best regards
Bjarne
Posted on Wed, Nov 17 2004 12:33
by Peter Brown
Joined on Fri, Jan 31 2003, Posts 231
I didn't think we were writing print scores here - that's what Sibelius and Finale are for. Mocking up a performance needs a 'playback' score, different from the one to be published.

The two should be mutualy exclusive.

If you're worried about messing up tracks in Cubase, create a folder track for each intsrument and put multiple lanes within it. Then you only have 1 efftective track to view per instrument once it's collapsed.

just a thought

PB
Posted on Wed, Nov 17 2004 14:12
by Sapkiller
Joined on Tue, Nov 05 2002, Copenhagen - Denmark, Posts 395
Can't do that in Sonar. Sad
Anyway - its not just for publishing I like to use scores. I prefer to do
most of my orientaion and editing via the score page in Sonar.
Also I don't think retriggering and layering soundwise is as good a solution as a perfect loop.

/Bjarne
Best regards
Bjarne
Posted on Wed, Nov 17 2004 18:17
by Existence
Joined on Mon, Sep 20 2004, Seattle, WA, Posts 30
Sapkiller wrote:
Can't do that in Sonar. Sad

/Bjarne


You can in Sonar 4 - with the new track folders option. Works great.

David
Posted on Wed, Nov 17 2004 18:36
by Carter
Joined on Mon, Dec 29 2003, Posts 145
There is something that works pretty well with strings, brass, i haven't tested it yet on timpani but it should work...Before triggering the first note, increase the release time and trigger a second note (before the first note ends) and so it will ... crossfade smoothly i think.
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