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Posted on Thu, Jan 22 2015 22:39
by Talino
Joined on Sat, Jul 17 2010, Posts 260

Hello,

I'm thinking of getting a Mac Pro (late 2013, the cylinder type). My current Mac Pro 2009 has VSL sitting on an internal PCIe Accelsior SSD card. I might use this one as a VEP slave, or use the card in an external Thunderbolt enclosure, or get a new external drive for VSL.

Forgive me if this sounds newbish, but I'm lost when it comes to current external drive solutions. In the SSD category, I can only find 2.5" drives (like this one) or RAID enclosures for PCIe cards. I don't understand why there are so few brain-dead external SSD drives with a Thunderbolt connector. Am I missing something? Are the "mobile" SSD drives (such as the LaCie Rugged) suitable for (fast) streaming of libraries? Is there any advantage in having a (non-RAID) PCIe SSD inside an enclosure with a Thunderbolt interface, compared to a regular, non-PCIe SSD?

The question is related to budget of course. I'd get a 4-SSD RAID if I could and wouldn't ask any questions...

BTW, in my current setup the Accelsior handles pretty well everything I throw at it, except in non-real-world tests when I play many notes on my entire template simultaneously (which never happens in real compositions, of course).

Thanks for your help.

MASTER: Cubase Pro 10.0.20, iMac 27 2015 i7 4.0 (17,1) 24gb RAM, OS X 10.14.4, RME Fireface UC. SLAVE: Mac Pro 2009 Quad 2.66 (4,1), 28gb RAM, OS X 10.11.6, Vienna Ensemble Pro 7, samples on OWC Accelsior SSD.
Posted on Sun, Jan 25 2015 17:02
by stevesong
Joined on Mon, Oct 18 2004, NYC, Posts 714

You can find what you are looking for on another page on the OWC website:

http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/?Ntk=Primary&N2=100103&Ns=P_Popularity%7c1&Ne=5000&N=100103&Ntt=thunderbolt+SSD

Stephen Siegel
New York City

MacPro (4.1) dual-quad Xeon @ 2.9.3 Ghz
24GB RAM; OS 10.8.5
2 960 GB OWC E2 Mercury Accelsior SSDs one dedicated to samples and the other partitioned into a partition for samples and a part ion for apps and files.
MOTU 2408 MK III (PCIe)

MacBook Pro with 2.5Ghz Core 2 Duo
4GB RAM; OS 10.8.5
MOTU 828
Firmtek/Seritek 2SM2-E Express Card SATA adapter.

Logic 9.1.6.; Finale 2011
Posted on Sun, Jan 25 2015 20:25
by Talino
Joined on Sat, Jul 17 2010, Posts 260

Does a mobile solution such as the LaCie SSD Rugged Thunderbolt drive perform as fast as an internal PCIe SSD?

MASTER: Cubase Pro 10.0.20, iMac 27 2015 i7 4.0 (17,1) 24gb RAM, OS X 10.14.4, RME Fireface UC. SLAVE: Mac Pro 2009 Quad 2.66 (4,1), 28gb RAM, OS X 10.11.6, Vienna Ensemble Pro 7, samples on OWC Accelsior SSD.
Posted on Sun, Jan 25 2015 22:28
by stevesong
Joined on Mon, Oct 18 2004, NYC, Posts 714

I reallydon't know but there is something important you should know that I discussed in another posting:

"Begining  with Yosemite, Apple has excluded all third party TRIM enablers. Angelbird, an Austrian company, claims that its wrk drives for the Mac enable TRIM using the TRIM enabler that is native to OS 10.10.  Other World Computing states that their drives don't need TRIM. Samsung drives and all other third party drives are thereby excluded from full functionality by Yosemite. Please check out the following links:

http://www.cindori.org/trim-enabler-and-yosemite/

http://www.larryjordan.biz/caution-ssd-drives-and-yosemite/

These will tell you what TRIM is and why this is an important issue.

By refusing to approve third party TRIM enablers and by making its own TRIM enabler work only with  Apple's own drives, Apple appears to be engaged in a classic and illegal restraint of trade action. You should complain to Apple and notify the anti-trust division of the US DOJ.

 Good luck."

Stephen Siegel
New York City

MacPro (4.1) dual-quad Xeon @ 2.9.3 Ghz
24GB RAM; OS 10.8.5
2 960 GB OWC E2 Mercury Accelsior SSDs one dedicated to samples and the other partitioned into a partition for samples and a part ion for apps and files.
MOTU 2408 MK III (PCIe)

MacBook Pro with 2.5Ghz Core 2 Duo
4GB RAM; OS 10.8.5
MOTU 828
Firmtek/Seritek 2SM2-E Express Card SATA adapter.

Logic 9.1.6.; Finale 2011
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