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How can I adjust the pitch wheel range in VI Pro5?
Last post Tue, Dec 25 2018 by Paul, 12 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Feb 21 2015 08:28
by mwatters525
Joined on Wed, Apr 08 2009, Chatsworth, CA, Posts 3

This command has been changed since the previous version, if I'm not mistaken. Currently it is set for a single whole stem but I need it to be an octave.

Posted on Sat, Feb 21 2015 08:48
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12112

Hello mwatters525, 

The Pitch Range was alwas 1 wholetone up and down (200 cents) in Vienna Instruments, all higher values will make each sample sound very artificial. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Feb 25 2015 15:21
by Martinz
Joined on Wed, Nov 26 2008, Stockholm, Posts 47

Dispite the quality aspect here, can you add the feature to pitch up to 1200 cents, just in case an artificial sound is wanted? The pitch range numbers could maybe turn red to warn that it wont sound realistic but I don't see why it shouldn't be possible at all. Sometimes I have used audio pitch shifters to get what I want, but they use more cpu than VI would do.

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Posted on Wed, Feb 25 2015 16:09
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12112

Hi Martinz, 

Everything is possible, but I don´t think it´s likely that we will increase the pitch range. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Feb 25 2015 16:36
by Martinz
Joined on Wed, Nov 26 2008, Stockholm, Posts 47

Hi Paul,

may I ask why?

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Posted on Wed, Feb 25 2015 17:17
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1636

Well, I don't know why being dogmatic about it would trump what is useful to the customer.
For one thing the Overdrive Guitar being restricted to a whole tone +/- is unidiomatic.
And I do not really know that eg., three semitones is more 'artificial' than two for every case.
It's meaningless for the Overdrive Guitar.

 

I get it, I mean for normal usage very much pitch bend is going to be noticable and IMO a whole tone is a lot.
Two semitones as a limit seem arbitrary and traditional/convenient rather than a real argument.

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Posted on Fri, Feb 27 2015 14:48
by Martinz
Joined on Wed, Nov 26 2008, Stockholm, Posts 47

Yep, I would say that a limit of something that could be teoretically infinite should be a guide, not a cap to avoid unwanted use. Increasing the freedom for users to do what they want… I see no reason why not.

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Posted on Thu, Mar 26 2015 20:08
by Martinz
Joined on Wed, Nov 26 2008, Stockholm, Posts 47

I'm bumping this. 

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Posted on Sun, Dec 23 2018 18:42
by GreenGoose58
Joined on Mon, Oct 15 2018, Posts 15

Also would like to bump this. As someone who composes strictly in sibelius, increasing the pitch bend to at least an octave would help so much with glisses. It takes too much time to work with the gliss samples and time stretch them properly every time (though having them as an option is fantastic!). It is much easier just to tell sibelius to do a pitch bend via the gliss line, and it works every time without extra tinkering.

 

It might not sound as good, but it should be my choice as the customer, right? I don't see why limiting features is a good thing. So far, this is one of my only complaints with VI Pro.

 

Would love if Andi, Paul or someone could give some insight into this :)

Posted on Mon, Dec 24 2018 10:03
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1572

Although I've never tried it but I though you could create your own custom Glissando runs in the VI Pro sequencer. 

There should be a tutorial video about it somewhere on this site.


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Posted on Tue, Dec 25 2018 04:26
by GreenGoose58
Joined on Mon, Oct 15 2018, Posts 15

Thanks! I will look into it.

 

However, it seems a bit pointless to need to make a custom gliss every time in the sequencer then going through the necessary work of creating a new custom soundset in sibelius. Although, it is great to have the option and that is part of what I love about VSL. It is very flexible and there is so much you can do! That being said, the whole tone pitch bend limit seems a bit arbitrary to me, and having it higher as most other VST's do would save a lot of time for many users. And it is also useful for users who simply like the effect.

 

Anyways, Happy Holidays to all on the forums! Maybe when everyone returns to work after the new year, we could get an increased pitch bend range as a late christmas present ;)

Posted on Tue, Dec 25 2018 11:26
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12112

Hi, 

With the built-in interpolation we are using in VI/VI PRO, the results you'd get with higher pitch ranges are not good enough, so we restricted it to the current range. 

I'm afraid there are no plans to change this in the near future. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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