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Mono channels - VE PRO 5
Last post Tue, Mar 17 2015 by civilization 3, 8 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Mar 14 2015 07:06
by Ionactive
Joined on Sat, Mar 30 2013, Posts 50

Hi All

I have to admit I have only just noticed this, even after using the excellent VE PRO 5 for some time. Unless I am being totally silly (and I am often), it appears you cannot have mono channels and mono outputs from those channel on to your DAW? Is this really the case?

I have been running BFD3 in VE Pro 5 on a separate computer. In terms of function it is working great. I am doing this as BFD3 is a memory and CPU hog so best left on another machine, rather than my DAW PC. Up to now I have just been taking the stereo mix right out of BDF3, through the single plugin channel of VE PRO 5 and on to my DAW (was testing function rather than audio). 

So this morning I am ready to split the channels out. BFD3 provides something like 6 stereo out, and loads of mono out. I can (of course) pick up the stereo in VE PRO 5 by adding channels. But... not the mono. Apart from being a waste of stereo pairs, I want the kick and snare out as mono - but VE PRO 5 cannot pick them up (as they are mono).

So, am I doing something wrong here, or missing a trick?

If VE PRO 5 cannot do mono I am amazed that this is a missing feature? 

Thanks for advice.

Mark

Posted on Sat, Mar 14 2015 07:13
by Ionactive
Joined on Sat, Mar 30 2013, Posts 50

OK... kinda partial solution just discovered. It appears that VE PRO 5 maps the stereo outs of BFD3 correctly, and then maps the mono out after that (but in stereo pairs). 

Not being an audio engineer - is this a solution. I mean, if I have a mono signal out of BFD3 going into a stereo channel  - is there anything I need to do panning wise (etc) so that from an audio perspecive the stereo channel is behaving as mono? Mark

Posted on Tue, Mar 17 2015 10:59
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1807

The Goniometer in Vienna Suite is definitely showing my Mono Outs from BFD3 as mono in VE Pro 5.4.13670, and in the last version I used, which was a couple of versions ago.

MacBook Pro 16,1: 2.3 GHz 8-core i9
64GB 2667MHz DDR4
OSX 10.15.7
VE Pro 7.1056, Cubase Pro 11.0.0
Posted on Tue, Mar 17 2015 11:04
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1807

I don't really understand your post.

2-8 are stereo, the rest are mono. That snare out, "9" is assigned to that input channel, called 'SnON'.

Several Cymbals go out "5", stereo, to 'Cym2R'

 

Goniometer displays [SnON = MONO; Cym2R = STEREO]:

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Posted on Tue, Mar 17 2015 11:20
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1807

I guess you believe that since this Input Channel by all appearances is a stereo channel that the behavior is stereo.
It isn't, the Goniometer is the proof. There is a BFD3 Mono you can instantiate but I never have.

BFD2 was buggy in this regard in the x64 versions, in terms of VE Pro. Almost half the time I would launch the Cubase project and this godawful feedback loop occurred (per any viframe with a mono BFD2 channel). Randomly. AND in one case the dead center snare was half-stereo and way off-center in a mono out. But BFD3 has behaved perfectly.

MacBook Pro 16,1: 2.3 GHz 8-core i9
64GB 2667MHz DDR4
OSX 10.15.7
VE Pro 7.1056, Cubase Pro 11.0.0
Posted on Tue, Mar 17 2015 11:21
by Ionactive
Joined on Sat, Mar 30 2013, Posts 50
Thanks. Have not come up against that function. Is that feature from Vienna Suite?

Posted on Tue, Mar 17 2015 11:30
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1807

Yes, it's a plugin incl. in Vienna Suite.

MacBook Pro 16,1: 2.3 GHz 8-core i9
64GB 2667MHz DDR4
OSX 10.15.7
VE Pro 7.1056, Cubase Pro 11.0.0
Posted on Tue, Mar 17 2015 11:38
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1807

I had to finally quit doing mono in BFD2. I used the Power Panner to seriously narrow the field in the kick and snare stereo channels. I used to export all the kit pieces, it seems like I did it via VE Pro but I don't want to swear by it; they were always all mono when I mixed like that. Now I've reduced the drums instance to two or three stereo outs, not doing stems today.

MacBook Pro 16,1: 2.3 GHz 8-core i9
64GB 2667MHz DDR4
OSX 10.15.7
VE Pro 7.1056, Cubase Pro 11.0.0
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