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  • Mono channels - VE PRO 5

    Hi All

    I have to admit I have only just noticed this, even after using the excellent VE PRO 5 for some time. Unless I am being totally silly (and I am often), it appears you cannot have mono channels and mono outputs from those channel on to your DAW? Is this really the case?

    I have been running BFD3 in VE Pro 5 on a separate computer. In terms of function it is working great. I am doing this as BFD3 is a memory and CPU hog so best left on another machine, rather than my DAW PC. Up to now I have just been taking the stereo mix right out of BDF3, through the single plugin channel of VE PRO 5 and on to my DAW (was testing function rather than audio). 

    So this morning I am ready to split the channels out. BFD3 provides something like 6 stereo out, and loads of mono out. I can (of course) pick up the stereo in VE PRO 5 by adding channels. But... not the mono. Apart from being a waste of stereo pairs, I want the kick and snare out as mono - but VE PRO 5 cannot pick them up (as they are mono).

    So, am I doing something wrong here, or missing a trick?

    If VE PRO 5 cannot do mono I am amazed that this is a missing feature? 

    Thanks for advice.

    Mark


  • OK... kinda partial solution just discovered. It appears that VE PRO 5 maps the stereo outs of BFD3 correctly, and then maps the mono out after that (but in stereo pairs). 

    Not being an audio engineer - is this a solution. I mean, if I have a mono signal out of BFD3 going into a stereo channel  - is there anything I need to do panning wise (etc) so that from an audio perspecive the stereo channel is behaving as mono? Mark


  • The Goniometer in Vienna Suite is definitely showing my Mono Outs from BFD3 as mono in VE Pro 5.4.13670, and in the last version I used, which was a couple of versions ago.


  • I don't really understand your post.

    2-8 are stereo, the rest are mono. That snare out, "9" is assigned to that input channel, called 'SnON'.

    Several Cymbals go out "5", stereo, to 'Cym2R'

     

    Goniometer displays [SnON = MONO; Cym2R = STEREO]:

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  • I guess you believe that since this Input Channel by all appearances is a stereo channel that the behavior is stereo.
    It isn't, the Goniometer is the proof. There is a BFD3 Mono you can instantiate but I never have.

    BFD2 was buggy in this regard in the x64 versions, in terms of VE Pro. Almost half the time I would launch the Cubase project and this godawful feedback loop occurred (per any viframe with a mono BFD2 channel). Randomly. AND in one case the dead center snare was half-stereo and way off-center in a mono out. But BFD3 has behaved perfectly.


  • Thanks. Have not come up against that function. Is that feature from Vienna Suite?

  • Yes, it's a plugin incl. in Vienna Suite.


  • I had to finally quit doing mono in BFD2. I used the Power Panner to seriously narrow the field in the kick and snare stereo channels. I used to export all the kit pieces, it seems like I did it via VE Pro but I don't want to swear by it; they were always all mono when I mixed like that. Now I've reduced the drums instance to two or three stereo outs, not doing stems today.