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Posted on Wed, Jun 03 2015 19:54
by babylonwaves
Joined on Fri, Feb 13 2004, , Posts 9

Hi guys - 

We’ve developed an addition for Logic Pro X which allows you to change articulations of orchestra instruments in a intuitive way. Basically, you just draw them into the timeline. The articulations show up with their real names and become a simply automation overlay.
Our top priority was to design something easy, something that doesn't get in the way of a musician and doesn't require programming skills when setting up. And, it works great with Vienna Instruments Pro, we have especially made a version to support switching matrix and cells at the same time.

Have a look how it works in this little video. The demos shows another instrument but it basically works the same for VSL instruments: https://vimeo.com/128062128

I'm really interested in what you think about that. 

Best, Marc 

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Art Conductor: The Articulation switcher for Logic Pro X 
All the details are here: http://www.babylonwaves.com

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Posted on Thu, Jun 04 2015 13:08
by winknotes_282
Joined on Mon, Dec 23 2002, Posts 189

Wow that looks great and takes alot of tedious work out of keyswitching with piano roll view and such.  I also assume it creates a "long note" such that if you start playback in the middle of the pizzicato section it would change to the pizzicato cell? 

I wonder if this principle could be applied to other DAWS?  I use reaper personally and am thinking about how I could do this with that DAW. 

Steve
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
Finale 2011, 2012c
VSL SE
Posted on Thu, Jun 04 2015 13:17
by Migot
Joined on Sun, Apr 01 2007, Quebec City, Quebec, Canada, Posts 282

Have a look here :

http://www.audiogrocery.com/a.g_toolkit_pro.htm#green-solid1

Best

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Composer born in 1957

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Posted on Thu, Jun 04 2015 19:08
by winknotes_282
Joined on Mon, Dec 23 2002, Posts 189

One more question.  Your demo is with cinematic strings which I assume is perhaps straight keyswitches.  Does this work with VSL matrices where switching is a little more complicated? 

Steve
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
Finale 2011, 2012c
VSL SE
Posted on Thu, Jun 04 2015 21:01
by babylonwaves
Joined on Fri, Feb 13 2004, , Posts 9

Originally Posted by: winknotes_282 Go to Quoted Post
One more question.  Your demo is with cinematic strings which I assume is perhaps straight keyswitches.  Does this work with VSL matrices where switching is a little more complicated?

VSL instruments have three layers: Matrix/Cell/Slot (correct me, if the nameing is wrong). That's why we have an extra script for VSL which switches both Matrix and Cell at the same time. The slot, it appears, is usually controlled by a continuous controller. We really try to keep things as simple as possible so technology doesn't get in your way when you're composing. So, we tailor scripts for certain instruments like this one.

I didn' t find time to make a new demo with a VSL instrument, hope this is not confusing.

Best, Marc

Posted on Thu, Jun 25 2015 22:45
by trenda
Joined on Sat, Jun 29 2013, Posts 9

Originally Posted by: winknotes_282 Go to Quoted Post
One more question.  Your demo is with cinematic strings which I assume is perhaps straight keyswitches.  Does this work with VSL matrices where switching is a little more complicated?

Audiogrocery anounced AG Toolkit 3.0 a few days ago, which blows up all small developments which coped the origina AG Articulation Control point technology (which was announced 2 years ago). AG anounced their unique Universal Maps together with the new Multi-Timbral Logic Articulation Switcher etc. Now you can control Vienna Matrixes & Articulations as never before. Have a look at Video Part 6 where AG demonstrate ultimate Vienna Matrix + Articulation + X-Fade + CC11 control. It is awesome!

Here is the direct Vienna Matrixes & Articulation Logic Switching Youtube Video Link:

Cheers

Posted on Fri, Jun 26 2015 08:54
by babylonwaves
Joined on Fri, Feb 13 2004, , Posts 9

I love it when you anonymously spam other theads to promote you product. And congrats, you've finally lowered to price and now it is just double as expensive as Art Conductor. And it is still a overly complex.

I feel so "blown up" ;)

Marc

Posted on Fri, Jun 26 2015 09:49
by trenda
Joined on Sat, Jun 29 2013, Posts 9

Originally Posted by: babylonwaves Go to Quoted Post
I love it when you anonymously spam other theads

There is no spam here. Fortunately I'm one of the AG testers who got the AG Toolkit 1.0 long time ago. I still wonder why you promote your product as "We found a great way", when this Great way was annonced lond time ago - everybody knows that?

Quote:
And it is still a overly complex

On the contrary. You offer separate single plugins for each special case, while AG created Universal Map tech, which allows to use same Articulation Map using just two plugins (I guess they will merge them into one soon). If you have to re-create all AG complex features such as two Key Switch latching  (for Sample Modeling), Switching MIDI Channel & Articulation on the fly (for Long & Shors Hollywood Strings switching) etc, you have to create tons of plugins. If you have to control 16 MIDI Channels loaded into a Multi-Instrument, how do you do that when you are limided to 8 MIDI FX slots (or you will force the users to use two Multi-Instruments with 8 MIDI FX Inserts)? AG offer a new True Multi-Timbral plugin (for all MIDI Ch.1-16). I guess you will do another copy of that ... Good luck.

Posted on Fri, Jun 26 2015 10:09
by babylonwaves
Joined on Fri, Feb 13 2004, , Posts 9

trenda -

On the subject of spam we just have to agree to disagree.

Art Conductor is designed for musicians. It is intended to be simple and easy to configure. it is not intended to do everything. I believe, the beauty of this approach is that it doesn't result in a tool which is complex and complicated to use.

We have made a special version for VSL, based on user requests. As you say, other options were around at this time. Maybe, some _musicians_ were just not happy with those?

Marc

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