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  • We found a great way to switch Vienna Instrument articulations in Logic

    Hi guys - 

    We’ve developed an addition for Logic Pro X which allows you to change articulations of orchestra instruments in a intuitive way. Basically, you just draw them into the timeline. The articulations show up with their real names and become a simply automation overlay.
    Our top priority was to design something easy, something that doesn't get in the way of a musician and doesn't require programming skills when setting up. And, it works great with Vienna Instruments Pro, we have especially made a version to support switching matrix and cells at the same time.

    Have a look how it works in this little video. The demos shows another instrument but it basically works the same for VSL instruments: https://vimeo.com/128062128

    I'm really interested in what you think about that. 

    Best, Marc 

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    Art Conductor: The Articulation switcher for Logic Pro X 
    All the details are here: http://www.babylonwaves.com

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  • Wow that looks great and takes alot of tedious work out of keyswitching with piano roll view and such.  I also assume it creates a "long note" such that if you start playback in the middle of the pizzicato section it would change to the pizzicato cell? 

    I wonder if this principle could be applied to other DAWS?  I use reaper personally and am thinking about how I could do this with that DAW. 


  • Have a look here :

    http://www.audiogrocery.com/a.g_toolkit_pro.htm#green-solid1

    Best


  • One more question.  Your demo is with cinematic strings which I assume is perhaps straight keyswitches.  Does this work with VSL matrices where switching is a little more complicated? 


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    @winknotes_282 said:

    One more question.  Your demo is with cinematic strings which I assume is perhaps straight keyswitches.  Does this work with VSL matrices where switching is a little more complicated?

    VSL instruments have three layers: Matrix/Cell/Slot (correct me, if the nameing is wrong). That's why we have an extra script for VSL which switches both Matrix and Cell at the same time. The slot, it appears, is usually controlled by a continuous controller. We really try to keep things as simple as possible so technology doesn't get in your way when you're composing. So, we tailor scripts for certain instruments like this one.

    I didn' t find time to make a new demo with a VSL instrument, hope this is not confusing.

    Best, Marc


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    @winknotes_282 said:

    One more question.  Your demo is with cinematic strings which I assume is perhaps straight keyswitches.  Does this work with VSL matrices where switching is a little more complicated?

    Audiogrocery anounced AG Toolkit 3.0 Video Linka few days ago, which blows up all small developments which coped the origina AG Articulation Control point technology (which was announced 2 years ago). AG anounced their unique Universal Maps together with the new Multi-Timbral Logic Articulation Switcher etc. Now you can control Vienna Matrixes & Articulations as never before. Have a look at Video Part 6 where AG demonstrate ultimate Vienna Matrix + Articulation + X-Fade + CC11 control. It is awesome!

    Here is the direct Vienna Matrixes & Articulation Logic Switching Youtube AG Toolkit 3.0 Video Link:

    Cheers


  • I love it when you anonymously spam other theads to promote you product. And congrats, you've finally lowered to price and now it is just double as expensive as Art Conductor. And it is still a overly complex.

    I feel so "blown up" ;)

    Marc


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    @Another User said:

    And it is still a overly complex

    On the contrary. You offer separate single plugins for each special case, while AG created Universal Map tech, which allows to use same Articulation Map using just two plugins (I guess they will merge them into one soon). If you have to re-create all AG complex features such as two Key Switch latching  (for Sample Modeling), Switching MIDI Channel & Articulation on the fly (for Long & Shors Hollywood Strings switching) etc, you have to create tons of plugins. If you have to control 16 MIDI Channels loaded into a Multi-Instrument, how do you do that when you are limided to 8 MIDI FX slots (or you will force the users to use two Multi-Instruments with 8 MIDI FX Inserts)? AG offer a new True Multi-Timbral plugin (for all MIDI Ch.1-16). I guess you will do another copy of that ... Good luck.


  • trenda -

    On the subject of spam we just have to agree to disagree.

    Art Conductor is designed for musicians. It is intended to be simple and easy to configure. it is not intended to do everything. I believe, the beauty of this approach is that it doesn't result in a tool which is complex and complicated to use.

    We have made a special version for VSL, based on user requests. As you say, other options were around at this time. Maybe, some _musicians_ were just not happy with those?

    Marc