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Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 12:21
by sunnykim
Joined on Sat, Apr 25 2009, Posts 32

Many thanks for your support!

VE Pro Main 1 works. But from VE Pro Main 2, multiple ports doesn't work. 

I''d like to route VE Pro Main 2 to the slave PC. Midi signal comes in but doesn't sound anything.

When I set MIDI IN: OMNI in slave, it works. But it's not what I want.

Can you help me?

---

I'm not sure but I think there's some problem in the Multiport 6x16 Ports template. 

VE Pro Main 2 works in the 2x48 Ports template. Can you check if I'm wrong?

I need 3x16 Ports.

Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 13:48
by marnix
Joined on Tue, Mar 16 2004, Vienna, Posts 872

Hello Sunny,

Can you please send me screenshots of your Logic MIDI Environment, so I can see how things are set up on your system?

And perhaps it would also be helpful if you could re-save the project on your computer and send me a zipped copy of this, so I can try and reproduce the problem you are experiencing.

Best, Marnix

Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 14:11
by pmjbaumann
Joined on Tue, Jun 09 2015, United Kingdom, Posts 31

Originally Posted by: sunnykim Go to Quoted Post

Many thanks for your supports!

VE Pro Main 1 works. But from VE Pro Main 2, multiple ports doesn't work. 

I''d like to route VE Pro Main 2 to the slave PC. Midi signal comes in but doesn't sound anything.

When I set MIDI IN: OMNI in slave, it works. But it's not what I want.

Can you help me?

---

I'm not sure but I think there's some problem in the Multiport 6x16 Ports template. 

VE Pro Main 2 works in the 2x48 Ports template. Can you check if I'm woring?

I need 3x16 Ports.

 

I think I'm having a similar issue. It works if I set the midi port to 17, rather than back to 1 for VEPro Main 2. It's like it carries on straight from the VEPro Main 1 V-frame, rather than a new v-frame for VEPro Main 2. VEPro Main 3 midi port has to start at 33 rather than 1 as well. I haven't had a chance to try it with the others.

I can confirm that the 2x48 template works fine with the second V-frame midi channel set to 1 rather than 49.

Peter Baumann

Host: Apple iMac 5k 27" (Late 2014), OS X Yosemite, 4GHz Intel Core i7, 32GB RAM, 256GB SSD OS Drive, Samsung T1 for samples.
Slave: Windows 10 Pro, Intel Core i7 6-Core Processor i7-5930K (3.5GHz) 15MB Cache, 64GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for samples.
Hardware: Oxygen61 Midi Keyboard, UR22 Interface, Yamaha HS7 Monitors.
Software: Logic Pro X on host, VEP on Slave PC connected via ethernet server.
Libraries: HO Gold, Pianos, Silk, Goliath, SD2 Pro, Solo Violin, Symphonic Choirs Gold, Voices of Passion, Spaces.
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 14:17
by pmjbaumann
Joined on Tue, Jun 09 2015, United Kingdom, Posts 31

I'm also getting this message when opening the logic files (see attached).

pmjbaumann attached the following image(s):
Screen Shot 2015-09-03 at 15.06.56.png (40kb) downloaded 2 time(s).

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Peter Baumann

Host: Apple iMac 5k 27" (Late 2014), OS X Yosemite, 4GHz Intel Core i7, 32GB RAM, 256GB SSD OS Drive, Samsung T1 for samples.
Slave: Windows 10 Pro, Intel Core i7 6-Core Processor i7-5930K (3.5GHz) 15MB Cache, 64GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for samples.
Hardware: Oxygen61 Midi Keyboard, UR22 Interface, Yamaha HS7 Monitors.
Software: Logic Pro X on host, VEP on Slave PC connected via ethernet server.
Libraries: HO Gold, Pianos, Silk, Goliath, SD2 Pro, Solo Violin, Symphonic Choirs Gold, Voices of Passion, Spaces.
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 14:43
by pmjbaumann
Joined on Tue, Jun 09 2015, United Kingdom, Posts 31

Originally Posted by: marnix Go to Quoted Post

Hello Sunny,

Can you please send me screenshots of your Logic MIDI Environment, so I can see how things are set up on your system?

And perhaps it would also be helpful if you could re-save the project on your computer and send me a zipped copy of this, so I can try and reproduce the problem you are experiencing.

Best, Marnix

Attached are some MIDI environment screenshots I've just taken. From the looks of it it's actually set up identically to the 2x48 template. VEPro 1-3 are hooked up to midi ports 1-48, and 4-6 are hooked up to a second set of 1-48.  Although I may be totally misreading the data as I have never seen anything like that before ha!

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Screen Shot 2015-09-03 at 15.40.12.png (370kb) downloaded 21 time(s).
Screen Shot 2015-09-03 at 15.40.21.png (276kb) downloaded 17 time(s).

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Peter Baumann

Host: Apple iMac 5k 27" (Late 2014), OS X Yosemite, 4GHz Intel Core i7, 32GB RAM, 256GB SSD OS Drive, Samsung T1 for samples.
Slave: Windows 10 Pro, Intel Core i7 6-Core Processor i7-5930K (3.5GHz) 15MB Cache, 64GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for samples.
Hardware: Oxygen61 Midi Keyboard, UR22 Interface, Yamaha HS7 Monitors.
Software: Logic Pro X on host, VEP on Slave PC connected via ethernet server.
Libraries: HO Gold, Pianos, Silk, Goliath, SD2 Pro, Solo Violin, Symphonic Choirs Gold, Voices of Passion, Spaces.
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 16:18
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2455

Originally Posted by: pmjbaumann Go to Quoted Post

I'm also getting this message when opening the logic files (see attached).

 

This mean that an instrument is receiving or sending one of the IAC port

To fix this remove it 

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 32 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X
Dorico 1.1
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 16:20
by pmjbaumann
Joined on Tue, Jun 09 2015, United Kingdom, Posts 31

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

This mean that an instrument is receiving or sending one of the IAC port

To fix this remove it 

 

What do I remove? I've literally just opened the template up blank, so I haven't added any instruments that would be using that. I don't even know what an IAC port is :p

Peter Baumann

Host: Apple iMac 5k 27" (Late 2014), OS X Yosemite, 4GHz Intel Core i7, 32GB RAM, 256GB SSD OS Drive, Samsung T1 for samples.
Slave: Windows 10 Pro, Intel Core i7 6-Core Processor i7-5930K (3.5GHz) 15MB Cache, 64GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for samples.
Hardware: Oxygen61 Midi Keyboard, UR22 Interface, Yamaha HS7 Monitors.
Software: Logic Pro X on host, VEP on Slave PC connected via ethernet server.
Libraries: HO Gold, Pianos, Silk, Goliath, SD2 Pro, Solo Violin, Symphonic Choirs Gold, Voices of Passion, Spaces.
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 16:29
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2455

Originally Posted by: pmjbaumann Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: marnix Go to Quoted Post

Hello Sunny,

Can you please send me screenshots of your Logic MIDI Environment, so I can see how things are set up on your system?

And perhaps it would also be helpful if you could re-save the project on your computer and send me a zipped copy of this, so I can try and reproduce the problem you are experiencing.

Best, Marnix

Attached are some MIDI environment screenshots I've just taken. From the looks of it it's actually set up identically to the 2x48 template. VEPro 1-3 are hooked up to midi ports 1-48, and 4-6 are hooked up to a second set of 1-48.  Although I may be totally misreading the data as I have never seen anything like that before ha!

 

This setup is totally crazy !  it is adressing 1536 midi channels ! ( 2 x 48 X 16)

Why do you need 1536 instruments ?

it is quite normal you are having problems !

My Orchestral template is using 100 instrument so 100 midi channels and it is using all the Levell II articulations of those 100 instruments

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 32 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X
Dorico 1.1
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 16:33
by pmjbaumann
Joined on Tue, Jun 09 2015, United Kingdom, Posts 31

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: pmjbaumann Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: marnix Go to Quoted Post

Hello Sunny,

Can you please send me screenshots of your Logic MIDI Environment, so I can see how things are set up on your system?

And perhaps it would also be helpful if you could re-save the project on your computer and send me a zipped copy of this, so I can try and reproduce the problem you are experiencing.

Best, Marnix

Attached are some MIDI environment screenshots I've just taken. From the looks of it it's actually set up identically to the 2x48 template. VEPro 1-3 are hooked up to midi ports 1-48, and 4-6 are hooked up to a second set of 1-48.  Although I may be totally misreading the data as I have never seen anything like that before ha!

 

This setup is totally crazy !  it is adressing 1536 midi channels ! ( 2 x 48 X 16)

Why do you need 1536 instruments ?

it is quite normal you are having problems !

My Orchestral template is using 100 instrument so 100 midi channels and it is using all the Levell II articulations of those 100 instruments

 

I don't need that many, but I need more than the basic one for my Hollywood libraries (ie. Violin 1 sustained, legato, portamento, pizz, staccato, staccatissimo, bartok pizz, col legno), and then violin 2 etc. When I set these up on 1 v-frame each (violin 1, violin 2), my CPU went through the roof on the slave pc. I'm now trying to add instruments to 6 v-frames (each with 10-16 play instances in them - ie. strings, woodwind, brass, etc.) to see if that helps to resolve my CPU issues.

Peter Baumann

Host: Apple iMac 5k 27" (Late 2014), OS X Yosemite, 4GHz Intel Core i7, 32GB RAM, 256GB SSD OS Drive, Samsung T1 for samples.
Slave: Windows 10 Pro, Intel Core i7 6-Core Processor i7-5930K (3.5GHz) 15MB Cache, 64GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for samples.
Hardware: Oxygen61 Midi Keyboard, UR22 Interface, Yamaha HS7 Monitors.
Software: Logic Pro X on host, VEP on Slave PC connected via ethernet server.
Libraries: HO Gold, Pianos, Silk, Goliath, SD2 Pro, Solo Violin, Symphonic Choirs Gold, Voices of Passion, Spaces.
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 16:59
by pmjbaumann
Joined on Tue, Jun 09 2015, United Kingdom, Posts 31

I've also noticed that the midi chase function in logic does not appear to work when using this template.

Peter Baumann

Host: Apple iMac 5k 27" (Late 2014), OS X Yosemite, 4GHz Intel Core i7, 32GB RAM, 256GB SSD OS Drive, Samsung T1 for samples.
Slave: Windows 10 Pro, Intel Core i7 6-Core Processor i7-5930K (3.5GHz) 15MB Cache, 64GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for samples.
Hardware: Oxygen61 Midi Keyboard, UR22 Interface, Yamaha HS7 Monitors.
Software: Logic Pro X on host, VEP on Slave PC connected via ethernet server.
Libraries: HO Gold, Pianos, Silk, Goliath, SD2 Pro, Solo Violin, Symphonic Choirs Gold, Voices of Passion, Spaces.
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 19:17
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2455

Originally Posted by: pmjbaumann Go to Quoted Post

I don't need that many, but I need more than the basic one for my Hollywood libraries (ie. Violin 1 sustained, legato, portamento, pizz, staccato, staccatissimo, bartok pizz, col legno), and then violin 2 etc. When I set these up on 1 v-frame each (violin 1, violin 2), my CPU went through the roof on the slave pc. I'm now trying to add instruments to 6 v-frames (each with 10-16 play instances in them - ie. strings, woodwind, brass, etc.) to see if that helps to resolve my CPU issues.

Use KeySwitching on one track for each violin

Get rid of Play instrument if you can, VSL have beatifull strings (I was a QLSO client)

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 32 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X
Dorico 1.1
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Thu, Sep 03 2015 20:30
by pmjbaumann
Joined on Tue, Jun 09 2015, United Kingdom, Posts 31

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

Use KeySwitching on one track for each violin

Get rid of Play instrument if you can, VSL have beatifull strings (I was a QLSO client)

 

I don't think play offers the functionality to load them all into one channel and switch via keyswitches sadly (unless you know of a way!)

Don't think I can afford VSL right now (I'm a poor student :p ) and I really like the libraries I've got, even if I can't quite work out the best way to set them up!

Peter Baumann

Host: Apple iMac 5k 27" (Late 2014), OS X Yosemite, 4GHz Intel Core i7, 32GB RAM, 256GB SSD OS Drive, Samsung T1 for samples.
Slave: Windows 10 Pro, Intel Core i7 6-Core Processor i7-5930K (3.5GHz) 15MB Cache, 64GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for samples.
Hardware: Oxygen61 Midi Keyboard, UR22 Interface, Yamaha HS7 Monitors.
Software: Logic Pro X on host, VEP on Slave PC connected via ethernet server.
Libraries: HO Gold, Pianos, Silk, Goliath, SD2 Pro, Solo Violin, Symphonic Choirs Gold, Voices of Passion, Spaces.
Posted on Fri, Sep 04 2015 00:41
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2455

Originally Posted by: pmjbaumann Go to Quoted Post

 

I don't think play offers the functionality to load them all into one channel and switch via keyswitches sadly (unless you know of a way!)

Look you have to RFM ;)

Page 28 of the manual of Hollywood String

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 32 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X
Dorico 1.1
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Sep 04 2015 04:38
by sunnykim
Joined on Sat, Apr 25 2009, Posts 32

Originally Posted by: pmjbaumann Go to Quoted Post

I'm also getting this message when opening the logic files (see attached).

 

I also got this message whenever opening the multiport template. I just ignored. I don't know if it matters.

I just sent a screenshot image and logic template file to technical support team. 

I'm rebuliding the big template. It's not easy....

Posted on Fri, Sep 04 2015 07:54
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2455

Originally Posted by: pmjbaumann Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

This mean that an instrument is receiving or sending one of the IAC port

To fix this remove it 

 

What do I remove? I've literally just opened the template up blank, so I haven't added any instruments that would be using that. I don't even know what an IAC port is :p

You must look for an instrument or a Multi, in it's setting you will find that it is sending to IAC

IAC = Inter Application Communication

 

see  https://sites.google.com/site/mfalab/mac-stuff/how-to-use-the-iac-driver

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 32 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X
Dorico 1.1
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Sep 04 2015 09:06
by sunnykim
Joined on Sat, Apr 25 2009, Posts 32

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

You must look for an instrument or a Multi, in it's setting you will find that it is sending to IAC

IAC = Inter Application Communication

 

see  https://sites.google.com/site/mfalab/mac-stuff/how-to-use-the-iac-driver

 

Hello Cyril. Thanks a lot for sharing good information. I'm in the same boat with pmjbaumann.

In Audio Midi Setup, I removed the ICA driver. Then I opened one of the Multiport Logic templates

that VSL team offers. I haven't loaded any insturments or multi and not hooked up with anything.

But when opening the template, the message still pops up. :(

Posted on Fri, Sep 04 2015 09:13
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2455

Check all the levels in the environment

Why did you delete the IAC ? put it back

Originally Posted by: sunnykim Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

You must look for an instrument or a Multi, in it's setting you will find that it is sending to IAC

IAC = Inter Application Communication

 

see  https://sites.google.com/site/mfalab/mac-stuff/how-to-use-the-iac-driver

 

Hello Cyril. Thanks a lot for sharing good information. I'm in the same boat with pmjbaumann.

In Audio Midi Setup, I removed the ICA driver. Then I opened one of the Multiport Logic templates

that VSL team offers. I haven't loaded any insturments or multi and not hooked up with anything.

But when opening the template, the message still pops up. :(

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 32 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X
Dorico 1.1
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Sep 04 2015 09:25
by marnix
Joined on Tue, Mar 16 2004, Vienna, Posts 872

Hello Sunny,

Please set the MIDI Port in your VE Pro 2 instance to 17, not to 1 - I have also replied to your support request by email!

Best, Marnix

Posted on Fri, Sep 04 2015 09:27
by sunnykim
Joined on Sat, Apr 25 2009, Posts 32

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

Check all the levels in the environment

Why did you delete the IAC ? put it back

How can I put it back? I didn't know what I did something in Logic's environment that I'm not comfortable with.

I didn't understand 100% what you said.

Posted on Fri, Sep 04 2015 09:42
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2455

Originally Posted by: sunnykim Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Cyril Go to Quoted Post

Check all the levels in the environment

Why did you delete the IAC ? put it back

How can I put it back? I didn't know what I did something in Logic's environment that I'm not comfortable with.

I didn't understand 100% what you said.

send me your song at :

cbhr at icloud dot com

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 32 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X
Dorico 1.1
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo
Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
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