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Posted on Mon, Aug 24 2015 01:30
by mike841
Joined on Sat, Jun 09 2012, Posts 14

Hi Gang,

VEPro is not reading any vst3 plugs on my Slave machine. I've checked my paths. Ther isn't much else to do. It's just not reading them.

Any suggestions?

-mike

Posted on Mon, Aug 24 2015 07:56
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

VEP doesn't work with VST3 plugs. Only VST2

DG

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Posted on Mon, Aug 24 2015 20:57
by mike841
Joined on Sat, Jun 09 2012, Posts 14

Originally Posted by: DG Go to Quoted Post

VEP doesn't work with VST3 plugs. Only VST2

DG

Isn't that what VSL claims in the brochure?

Posted on Mon, Aug 24 2015 21:01
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

I've no idea what it says in the brochure. There is a VST3 connector from the sequencer, so maybe that's what it says.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Mon, Aug 24 2015 22:38
by mike841
Joined on Sat, Jun 09 2012, Posts 14

Yeah, that's probably what they meant. Oh well, maybe in a future upgrade. Anyway, thanks DG. You saved me from bagging my head against the wall trying to figure this out.

-mike

Posted on Tue, Sep 08 2015 22:01
by pacman
Joined on Mon, Jan 12 2015, Posts 27

The latest version of Adobe Audition doesn't like some of my VST3 plugins and therefore, I have to use the VST2 versions: I wish this could all be resolved...

Posted on Sat, Sep 12 2015 10:13
by 10us
Joined on Tue, Jan 01 2013, Posts 42

 

The host plugin (in your DAW) is VST3. The slave software cannot load VST3 plugins. This is a shame because almost all plugins are VST3 nowadays. When you use a slave on your DAW system, like I do, you have to install both VST2 and 3 versions of your plugin otherwise nothing will show up in the VEP5 slave. I don't understand why Vienna doesn't implement VST3 support in their slave software. Shouldn't be that much work... 

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Posted on Sat, Sep 12 2015 10:31
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

VE Pro is primarily a sample player host, and there are no VST3 sample players available yet, other than Halion (I think). Until that happens, I don't really see the point, unless it could host both VST2 and VST3 sample players at the same time.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Sat, Sep 12 2015 10:46
by 10us
Joined on Tue, Jan 01 2013, Posts 42

Primarly for sample players? What about people, like me, who use VEP5 to offload VST/i ASIO performance to a slave host? I run all of my VSTi's and CPU heavy insert VST's on slaves. I'm not sure, but I don't think I'm the only one who wants to get the most out of it. Especialy in respect to ASIO performance. Offloading ASIO performance is the main reason I use VEP5. This way I reserve all my (Cubase) ASIO performance for the mixing stage.

Why woukd you only use sample players in VEP5? I'm quit shure NI Kontakt and Battery do have VST3 versions...

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Posted on Sat, Sep 12 2015 11:13
by DG
Joined on Wed, May 12 2004, Posts 8608

Originally Posted by: 10us Go to Quoted Post
Why woukd you only use sample players in VEP5?

Becuase that's what it was originally designed for. I've never used plugs in VEP and probalby never will.

Originally Posted by: 10us Go to Quoted Post

I'm quit shure NI Kontakt and Battery do have VST3 versions...

Certainly not Kontakt. I don't know anything about Battery.

DG

Nuendo 6.03, 4.3
2 x Intel Xeon x5675 3.07GHz Hex Core
48GB RAM
Windows 7 (x64)Pro
RME Multiface II
Intensity
ATI HD5400 series graphics card
Posted on Sat, Sep 12 2015 11:46
by 10us
Joined on Tue, Jan 01 2013, Posts 42

I see, NI users have the same problem:

https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/please-add-vst3-thank-you.197789/

Arguments like 'original designed for sample players' and 'mainly used for sample players' doesn't sound verry strong to me. It sounds like a disability to progress. Maybe because there is afaik no alternative for VEP5's functionality.

Don't get me wrong: I like VEP5 a lot and can't do without it. The only thing that botters me is that the selection of plugins could be much more user friendly as we can see in Cubase 8 nowadays (search field and a plugin manager to create user subsets of plugins, ordered the way you like).

In the mean time I'm looking for a VST container solution like Blue Cat Patchwork. But they also don't support VST3 and don't have a more advanced plugin selection solution. DDMF Metaplugin does have VST3 support but on first look no advanced plugin selection. So maybe it's not possible what I'm looking for.... ;-)

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Posted on Sun, Sep 13 2015 19:29
by pacman
Joined on Mon, Jan 12 2015, Posts 27

Just testing NYRV Systems Agent, it takes VST3, Instruments and Effects, okay: looks like it could be of use!?

Posted on Mon, Sep 14 2015 13:29
by 10us
Joined on Tue, Jan 01 2013, Posts 42
Looks promessing:

"You and right click on the “Plugins” folder to find sort options. Plugins can be sorted by Manufacturer, Alphabetically, by Category, by Plugin Format, or in the same way your tier your plugin folders in your system.
Additionally, you can search for plugins using the search bar at the bottom of the browser."

I don't think it loads VSTi but there much less then VST's.

How portable are the created configs? Is it as easy as copying a file to another DAW?

Regards,

Martijn
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Posted on Sun, Sep 20 2015 14:10
by pacman
Joined on Mon, Jan 12 2015, Posts 27

May have looked promising, but is crashing Cubase Pro 8 and VEP, seperately and won't let Cubase load, after loading it to VEP! Thought it might be new Windows 7 updates, but took out Agent and no more crashes, also tried free CM version and same occurs with that, plus they both take ages to load. I have passed this on to Nyrv, so may be an update will appear soon... PS: New version of Agent doesn't crash, but will not take VST3 plugins in non VST3 environment: VEP!

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