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Posted on Wed, Nov 16 2016 07:19
by johnstaf
Joined on Thu, Apr 21 2011, EI, Posts 216

I think the 432 Hz examples just sound like a flat piano. 

Cubase (OS agnostic). Various VSL bits and pieces.

Posted on Wed, Dec 27 2017 11:16
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1380

Include my vote for lower (and higher) tuning. A432 would be useful for careful reproduction of mid-19th century Italian opera and some Baroque repertorie (for example, Bach's 'chamber pitch'). From A415 (or even A409) to A430 would be great for music from Baroque to Classical. A466 would be Bach's 'choir pitch', useful for organ and cornetto music.

Adding these extremes would let Chamber Strings and Historical instruments play at the same pitch of their ancestors, and would make mixing with replica instruments much easier. 

Paolo

Posted on Wed, Dec 27 2017 12:06
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Göttingen, Posts 956

Originally Posted by: PaoloT Go to Quoted Post

Include my vote for lower (and higher) tuning. A432 would be useful for careful reproduction of mid-19th century Italian opera and some Baroque repertorie (for example, Bach's 'chamber pitch'). From A415 (or even A409) to A430 would be great for music from Baroque to Classical. A466 would be Bach's 'choir pitch', useful for organ and cornetto music.

Adding these extremes would let Chamber Strings and Historical instruments play at the same pitch of their ancestors, and would make mixing with replica instruments much easier. 

Paolo

It ssem to me as if it's already all there:

- "Lower (and higher tuning)"?

Just make use of the pitchwheel CC and you can easily raise or lower the tuning however you want to.

- pitch reproduction of "mid-19th century Italian opera and some Baroque repertorie", "music from Baroque to Classical", " organ and cornetto music" ?

Make use of the "Matrix-Scale" Frature in the Matrix Tab of VI and load that certain historicly correct tuning yo need.

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Posted on Wed, Dec 27 2017 18:24
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1380

Steffen, the pitchbend trick can be easy with a single instrument, but not if you are simulating the full Lully's orchestra. It can done, but it is quite laborius.

Historical temperaments are, if I'm not wrong, applied to the relative pitches, after you find the correct diapason. So, whether you are working with A440 or A415, they should preserve the same relation between notes in a scale.

Paolo

Posted on Fri, Dec 29 2017 05:41
by Mike B Studios
Joined on Thu, Feb 16 2012, Hollywood, CA, Posts 411

Interesting conversation...

Posted on Fri, Dec 29 2017 05:48
by Mike B Studios
Joined on Thu, Feb 16 2012, Hollywood, CA, Posts 411

Originally Posted by: Silver Go to Quoted Post

Just download VI from the MyVSL downloads section. It comes with all VSL's instruments. You don't need the pro version to do this.

 

It probably should be said that The Vienna Imperial has its own player. It does not work within The Vienna Instruments Player or The Vienna Instruments Pro Player...

Just an FYI.

Posted on Fri, Dec 29 2017 10:36
by woy
Joined on Sun, Oct 31 2004, Monaco, Posts 44

Hi, I have to agree with Paul. Having used many midi controller keyboards over the years I have found that the Lachnit keyboards are simply in a different class for touch and playability. They are quite expensive, but do you get what you pay for. Regards, Roy

Posted on Fri, Dec 29 2017 10:47
by fahl5
Joined on Fri, Feb 04 2005, Göttingen, Posts 956

Originally Posted by: PaoloT Go to Quoted Post

Steffen, the pitchbend trick can be easy with a single instrument, but not if you are simulating the full Lully's orchestra. It can done, but it is quite laborius.

Paolo

It sem to be a matter of copy and paste if you set the pitch for one instrument just copy that CC-Value ant paste it to the tracks of all other instruments whlie to do this in VI would be at least as tedious since you have to set this likewise for each instrument seperatly ( if not even for each Matrix of each VI-Instance which would be even more tedious).

OK I admit it would be for your need a bit smarter to do that either in your Sequencer or in VE something like a global masterpitch. (I even dont really know if there isn't already something like this) but at least you can at least achieve what you want  - it is not impossible

http://libraries.resampled.de/index.php
four parallel interpretations of ambitious classical scores with up to twelve different Libraries

http://beethoven.resampled.de
currently the first four Symphonies of L.v.Beethoven completly recorded with the finest available orchestra samplelibraries (BBCSO, SSO, STO)

http://klassik-resampled.de
Currently 4330 mp3 with more than a whole Week (=more than 8 Days /=nearly 200 hours) of sample based interpretations of complete Scores from 7 Centuries
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