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Posted on Wed, Nov 18 2015 16:20
by Stig Christensen
Joined on Fri, Mar 18 2005, Copenhagen, Posts 104

I try to figure out what is best: One VE for each instrument like A: 1. image

Or like this B 2. image

In A there are only one midi port and 2 audio channels allocated each instance. All instruments returns on their own separate audio channels.

In B I have to have at least 2 midi ports (32 channels) and ca. 16 channels of audio pr. instance.
What is best?? In terms of latency & cpu use.

Regards Stig

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Musicmind (Mind the Music!)
Mac Pro 6.1 64Gb, Mac Pro 12 48Gb, Mac Pro 8 24Gb, Mac Pro 4 12Gb, MacBookPro, Apollo interface, Universal Audio (4 cards), Waves 9, NI Komplete 9, VSL, EWQL Platinum, BFD3, Superior, Arturia, Sound Toys, Euphonix MC Control + Mix, Neumann mics, DynAudio, Yamaha + Adam monitors, a lot of outboard AND Steinway Concert Grand A ;-)
Posted on Thu, Nov 19 2015 10:46
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1498

I guess it all depends on your work flow.

I have a system that's quite capable of handling huge 16 channel templates chock full of articulations and samples.  However, I choose to keep my VE instances instrument family specific more or less for orginization reasons.  Also, I mix post fader with audio tracks as opposed to MIDI because automation is easier and I can create clips to add effects to specific areas on one track.

 

But that's just me

Your needs are probably different depending on your systems capabilities.


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
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Posted on Sun, Nov 22 2015 03:30
by civilization 3
Joined on Sat, May 16 2009, SF Bay Area, Posts 1622

Me, I would use one instance for WW/Brass. With probably only the master bus coming back to Cubase. Because I don't have any real reason to make it more complicated than this. I mix in VE Pro with quite a bit of automation, and I ultimately made a policy of less audio outputs for less clutter and less waste of CPU cycles. YMMV.

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32GB 2400MHz DDR4
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VE Pro 7
Posted on Mon, Nov 23 2015 07:52
by RootNDoo
Joined on Tue, Nov 25 2008, Posts 46

Hi Stig,

 

I found that having fewer instances of VEP greatly decreased the CPU load in my sequencer (Digital Performer). I am currently running a large template through one instance of VEP. The CPU load in my sequencer is much happier than when I had 7-8 instances of VEP.

Mac Pro 6-core 3930k Asus Saberooth x79
32GB RAM 10.9.5 Digital Performer 9
Windows 7 - 16 core Xeon E5-2650 v2 - SuperMicro
128 GB Ram - VE Pro hosting Kotakt, Play, SWAM
Posted on Tue, Nov 24 2015 19:42
by Stig Christensen
Joined on Fri, Mar 18 2005, Copenhagen, Posts 104

Well I think it has to do with the way that your particular DAW handles latency issues. I think in Cubase the selected channel is put into record mode and if this channel is adressing a large VEPro frame with a lot of instruments, then Cubase begins to "suffer".

Over at VI-Control some suggests that when using Logic you should have many "small" frames.

Musicmind (Mind the Music!)
Mac Pro 6.1 64Gb, Mac Pro 12 48Gb, Mac Pro 8 24Gb, Mac Pro 4 12Gb, MacBookPro, Apollo interface, Universal Audio (4 cards), Waves 9, NI Komplete 9, VSL, EWQL Platinum, BFD3, Superior, Arturia, Sound Toys, Euphonix MC Control + Mix, Neumann mics, DynAudio, Yamaha + Adam monitors, a lot of outboard AND Steinway Concert Grand A ;-)
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