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MIRx as an option for expansion beyond MIR Pro 24
Last post Sat, Apr 02 2016 by pacman, 5 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Apr 01 2016 14:13
by dbudde
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2003, Seattle,WA USA, Posts 482

So I have some questions about MIRx.  I am looking for ways to add instruments beyond the limits of MIR PRO 24.  One alternative is to upgrade to MIR PRO.  This has the disadvantage of only working on one system unless I purchase a second and/or third license depending on how many slaves I have.   Another option is to add a venue or two of MIRx and live with its limitations for the instuments on which it is enabled.  So my questions are:

1.  I assume these products are compatible right?  No problem running some instances of VI Pro in MIR Pro and others with MIRx enabled?  All within the same VE Pro instance and/or in separate VE Pro instances?

2.  Does enabling MIRx in a VI Pro instance reduce the number of instances I can have in MIR PRO 24?  I assume not, but just checking.

3.  When using MIRx on one or more slave(s) and MIR Pro 24 on the master, is there any issue about conflicts or numbers of instances that can be used?

4.  All of this begs the question of why MIR Pro has this limitation in the first place.  It is after all a Pro product and so should look superior in every way to MIRx.  But it is not in this regard.  Unless I just don't understand how the system works.  And that is quite possible.  So that's why I'm asking...

Posted on Fri, Apr 01 2016 15:13
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8245

Hi Dbudde,

Originally Posted by: dbudde Go to Quoted Post

So I have some questions about MIRx.  I am looking for ways to add instruments beyond the limits of MIR PRO 24.  One alternative is to upgrade to MIR PRO.  This has the disadvantage of only working on one system unless I purchase a second and/or third license depending on how many slaves I have.   Another option is to add a venue or two of MIRx and live with its limitations for the instuments on which it is enabled.  So my questions are:

1.  I assume these products are compatible right?  No problem running some instances of VI Pro in MIR Pro and others with MIRx enabled?  All within the same VE Pro instance and/or in separate VE Pro instances?

Well - "compatible" is maybe not the word for it ;-) ... MIR Pro and MIRx are different products and can't share settings, but they will run happily side-by-side. - I posted a comparison between MIR Pro and MIRx some time ago in this thread (just scroll down a bit).

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2.  Does enabling MIRx in a VI Pro instance reduce the number of instances I can have in MIR PRO 24?  I assume not, but just checking.

Your assumption is right: As the different products they are, they rely on individual licences, so the one won't influence the other at all (apart from technical aspects like the strain put on the CPU and so on).

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3.  When using MIRx on one or more slave(s) and MIR Pro 24 on the master, is there any issue about conflicts or numbers of instances that can be used?

Unless I misunderstood your question, the answer is the same as above.

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4.  All of this begs the question of why MIR Pro has this limitation in the first place.  It is after all a Pro product and so should look superior in every way to MIRx.  But it is not in this regard.  Unless I just don't understand how the system works.  And that is quite possible.  So that's why I'm asking...

I understand what you're asking for.

Like I wrote in another recent thread in this forum: MIR is a somewhat peculiar product which offers a unique approach to spatialisation and reverb. The underlying concept implies that it should be used as unified mixing front end for (virtual) orchestration, as one single, final instance for all involved signal sources.

With the advent of MIR Pro, this concept got diluted a bit, as we can now have several instances opened side-by-side in VE Pro. Still it is meant to be seen mostly as "final summing mixer", and not as "reverb engine", spread accross several slaves.

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Apr 01 2016 15:21
by dbudde
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2003, Seattle,WA USA, Posts 482

Thanks.  I saw that comparison thread.  I was playing around with MIRx mode inside MIR Pro 24 and that is what triggered all these questions.  I was trying to instantiate MIRx and found out I couldn't do that directly.  But it raised a bunch of possibilities about expanding beyond MIR Pro 24.

Anyway, this takes care of my questions.  

Posted on Fri, Apr 01 2016 20:10
by dbudde
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2003, Seattle,WA USA, Posts 482

Originally Posted by: Dietz Go to Quoted Post

I understand what you're asking for.

So one other thought about this.  I think what would make sense is that if one has a license for MIR Pro/MIR Pro 24, then one ought to be able to enable MIRx inside VI Pro instances for whatever venues are licensed with MIR Pro (within the constraints of MIRx venues of course).  This would be in addition to MIRx mode inside VE Pro.  This way, there would not be the case where MIRx has any advantage over the Pro versions of MIR.  

Food for thought.  Thanks for the info and insight.

Posted on Sat, Apr 02 2016 10:20
by pacman
Joined on Mon, Jan 12 2015, Posts 27

I have VEP 5 and am very pleased to be given 3 licences, but I also possess MIR and some Libraries and would like those to have another licence/s. It is annoying that I use my main PC to setup VEP, including the wonderfully easily integrated MIR and then transfer these frames to 'slave', which does not have MIR. I love having as many options as possible to less interfere with my workflow, but I do not feel that I should purchase another MIR! :( | :) development costs point taken.

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