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  • VEP channel automation on selected track

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    Here's what I'm trying to do:

     

    Lets say we have 16 instruments in VEP, and each is assigned to MIDI channels 1-16, and I have 16 MIDI tracks in my daw. Is there a way I can use CC14 (or any specified CC) on any selected MIDI track to control the VEP fader of the selected track? If I select track 5, can I can use the same CC14 fader as I would for track 1? Essentially I am trying to use each track in the same manner as I would use CC7, but have it control the VEP audio mixer instead. Is this possible, or is this a feature request? 

    The reason I want to do this is the ability to control instruments that do not behave correctly with CC7, and to do so without automating additional inputs into my DAW. The current implementation in VEP says that I need to specify a unique CC for each track, and to automate a 1000+ track template would be unreasonable.
  • JT3_JonJ
    JT3_JonJ

    You shouldn't have to automate 1000+ tracks as most intruments do respond to midi CC7 (or CC11) as volume control. Often it is easier to midi learn the volume inside the instrument itself. For example I will often midi learn the instrument volume slider in Kontakt if the instrument itself doesn't respond to midi CC7. In fact, I cannot think of an instrument I use that I've needed to automate the volume fader in VE pro. Perhaps you can provide some specifics? 
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    I have a few Kontakt instruments that were programmed to be very low level in volume, and setting CC7 to 127 does not get the instrument loud enough. Sometimes CC7 and CC11 behave poorly and there is an audible zipper effect during a fade out. Also, sometimes you want to increase the volume of a soft piano note in the lowest dynamic layers.

    Sure, there are many other ways to do this, such as sending numerous stereo outputs from VEP, but the more channels you send over ethernet, the more resources are consumed, and 1000 stereo pairs is impractical. 

     

    I know I could set this on each track individually, but it would be convenient to have a global setting for controlling the faders. I guess it's a feature request.
  • JT3_JonJ
    JT3_JonJ

    Seems like a reasonable feature request to me. Make sure you include your reasoning when you email VSL. 

    As a work around, you could insert a gain plugin on these "low volume intruments" and raise that volume and then automate using midi CC's as usual and/or automate the gain plugin itself. 
  • JT3_JonJ
    JT3_JonJ

    I actually did a quick test and it seems to function correctly for me (unless I'm missing something?) Here is the process. 

    1. Create a VE pro as usual (server instance, add instruments, host plugin in daw, midi tracks routed correctly etc.)
    2. Select midi channel 1 in your DAW (for me it was a VI pro flute)
    3. Open the Automation mapping window (F5 on mac)
    4. Midi learn your controller (I used CC34) and midi learn the fader of VE pro for that instrument
    5. Select mid channel 2 (for me it was a VI pro Oboe)
    6. Midi learn the same controller (CC34) and midi learn the fader for that instrument. 

    Now if I use cc34 with my flute, its automating just the flute volume fader in VE pro (not the plugin but the VE pro mixer fader). If I use cc34 on the oboe midi channel, just the oboes fader in ve pro moves. Is this not what you want? The important step is selecting the midi channel who's volume fader you want to automate and then midi learn.

    p.s. I tested this with multiple ports in ve pro as well as multiple ve pro instances, and I was able to learn the volume fader inside ve pro to midi CC34 for all my loaded instruments. Maybe I'm missing something? I am on a Mac running VE Pro 5.4.13845