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  • (Sib7) Accent (>) = Artificial Harmonics

    Hi,

    I'm having a problem with Sibelius 7 and VSL Appassionata Strings playback.

    I selected Vienna Symphonic Library House Style, Violin I (Appassionata Strings), Violin II (Appassionata Strings), and so on. I used the VE Strings sound set in playback setting and routed the signal to MIDI port accordingly. It worked perfectly fine until I put Accent Mark (>) on some notes in my Strings part. For some reason, it triggers SVi (Sustain-Vibrato) patch with 2 octaves transposed up in my VE (running 'Sibelius' Preset), which is the same patch as when I put diamond notes above the notes (Artificial Harmonic).

    I downloaded and installed the latest version of Soundset but nothing changed. 

    Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.

    Cheers,


  • Hello P.Posayanonth!

    It can have different reasons why articulation changes don't work as supposed. Normally an accent shouldn't have any effect on the articulation with the VE Strings sound set. Do you have other sound sets that include strings in your playback configuration as well? The Special Edition and Special Edition PLUS sound sets include accented strings articulations and might get in the way in some cases. So if you have Special Edition Orchestral Strings in your Playback Configuration as well, I would do as follows:
    - Go to the Sibelius Dictionary/Acrticulations and select Accent.
    - Remove the Sound ID change and press OK.

    If that wasn't reason, please check out the "Troubleshooting" chapter of the "Optimizing Sibelius Playback" manual. For most articulaton change problems, you should be able to find a solution there.
    http://www.vsl.co.at/en/MyDownloads/Notation_Related

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Dear Andi

    Thank you for your reply! It is very likely that the Special Edition PLUS sound set just got in the way. As I wrote for the full orchestra, I need to run multiple Vienna Ensemble instances for different orchestral sections as they require the different sound sets. I'm not sure if there were a better way to do this but here's my configuration:

    Vienna Ensemble 1 (VE Strings): Appassionata Violin, Violin, Viola, Cello, Double Bass, Harp I

    Vienna Ensemble 2 (VE Woodwinds + Brass): Flute, Flute, Oboe, Oboe, Clarinet, Clarinet, Bassoon, Bassoon

    Vienna Ensemble 3 (VE Special Edition PLUS): Piccolo, English Horn, Bass Clarinet, Contrabassoon, French Horn, French Horn, French Horn, French Horm, Trumpet, Trumpet, Trumpet, Tenor Trombone, Tenor Trombone, Bass Trombone, Tuba

    Vienna Ensemble 4 (VE Special Edition PLUS): Timpani, Cymbals, Glockenspiel, Xylophone, Marimba, Vibraphone, Tubular bells

    As you can see a list of my VSL products from the list below my post, I don't own Brass and Percussion standard/full library yet. That's why VE Special Edition PLUS sound set needs to be one of my sound set. However, is there any other approach that you would suggest? Such as making use of Vienna Ensemble PRO and combining 4 instances into one while each instrument responds precisely to its respective sound set?

    Cheers,

    P. P.


  • If you have instruments that have definitions in more than one sound set, then you need to specify the Preferred Sounds in the playback configuration.  Otherwise, Sibelius will pick one and if your key switches/articulations assume a different one, then unpredictable results will occur.


  • Hello P.P.!

    As you don't use strings from the Special Edition PLUS sound set, I'm not sure, if the problem really comes from the other sound set. Did you try my suggestion of removing the Sound ID for the accent?

    Vienna Ensemble Pro can help you in different ways, but it wouldn't solve the problem you have described in this thread.

    I suggest going through all points in the "Troubleshooting" chapter of the "Optimizing Sibelius Playback" manual. If you can't find a solution there, you can send your score and playback configuration (xml file and data folder) to support@vsl.co.at and I will take a look at them. On Mac you can find playback configurations for Sibelius 7 in the following folder:
    Users/your username/Library/Application Support/Avid/Sibelius 7/Playback Configurations
    The Users/your username/Library folder is hidden by default. To get
    access, go to the folder Users/your username. Then choose Go/Go to folder and enter “Library”.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Dear Andi,

    I have tried removing the sound ID for the accent as you suggested and now the problem is solved. :)

    It is quite strange how one instance (VE Strings) is influenced by the other instance's sound set (VE Special Edition PLUS). However, thank you very much for your solution!

    Regards,

    P. P.


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    @dbudde said:

    If you have instruments that have definitions in more than one sound set, then you need to specify the Preferred Sounds in the playback configuration.  Otherwise, Sibelius will pick one and if your key switches/articulations assume a different one, then unpredictable results will occur.

    Hello dbudde, 

    Your approach seems to be working as well. This way, I can match each instrument with preferred VE instance and avoid sound set to be influenced by each other. Thank you! 😊

    Regards,

    P. P.


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